Thank you Gary for the detailed notes on SVN.  I am going to get my code
setup next week with SVN.

On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 9:58 AM, Gary McNeel <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi:
>
> We use Subversion here for all of our repository needs - probably some 100
> plus applications in many languages.  The actual file storage structure
> changes depending on the language.  We do use the trunk, branch, tag
> model.  For instance, CF folder structure is different from Flex and .NET
> structures.  If you are working in a team environment using Flex, you do not
> want to version the .properties (dot) files, which are workstation user
> specific configuration files.  You hose your partner in a game of
> configuration changes.  'SVN Ignore' them.  SVN Ignore any compiled folders,
> such as bin-build and bin-debug, etc.  We rarely version compiled code,
> preferring to just back it up.  You also need to keep track of settings for
> compilers, etc., that are configured locally.  I tend to keep that in a text
> file with notes stored in the repository.  This allows a future developer to
> somewhat recreate your IDE environment to compile the code in the future if
> needed.  We also keep a snapshot of the db scripts at different points.
>
> So the structure might look like:
> branches
> tags
> tags\1.0 (version one as released)
> trunk
> trunk\support
>  trunk\support\db (holds SQL scripts)
>  trunk\support\docs
>  trunk\support\docs\( folders like: code reviews, design, meeting minutes,
> misc, requirements, test plans, etc.)
> wwwroot (holds the root of the CF code: application.cfc, index.cfm, etc.)
>
> We use VisualSVN.  Works well, easy to maintain and good support.  I think
> donations welcome.  Well worth it.  It stores repositories slightly
> differently than traditional SVN repositories are typically configured, but
> gives you a simple GUI for managing them.  Nothing odd, just makes good use
> of SVNs capabilities via the auth files.  Much less messing with Apache
> config files, etc.  Once installed, you can choose to use Windows (I did
> not see what type of server you are using, assume Windows) or SVN
> authentication.
>
> We installed it to use https.  Visual SVN comes with its own Apache build,
> etc. so it is self contained and point and click to install.  This was nice
> as we did not want to make some changes to our servers Apache
> configuration for various reasons (mainly to do with version installed).
>
> As a note:  be sure to set it up on a server that would be "first" to be
> brought back online in the event of an emergency.  Usually, prod is the one
> first brought up and most likely to be hosted somewhere safe.  Not always,
> but often.  You want that repository safe and available.
>
> As another note: SVN should not be treated as a 'backup' tool.  Typically,
> only version non-binary files unless you have a specific need to version
> binaries.  They do not take advantage of SVNs ability to store large of
> amounts of changed data economically.
>
> One other pattern that is very good to develop is the SVNUpate before any
> SVNCommit.  Will stop many of the conflicts, especially in team
> environments.  I SVNUpdate several times a day and it is important that
> teammates tell each other when the commit significant changes.  I and
> another guy one time spent a lot of time working on the same query, then
> conflicted on commits.  Better communication would have had working on other
> areas.  Sad to say, his was better than mine, so he won the conflict
> resolution.
>
> For us, getting everyone on board moving from VSS to SVN was tough, took a
> year.  Most people could not grasp not 'locking' the file on which you are
> working.  Eventually people get it and I love SVN style verson control.
> Good luck.
>
> Gary McNeel
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 8:12 AM, Mike Demahy <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>>  I have started using subversion.  Thanks to Ken Auenson.  I have been
>> working with him on a project and we are using Subversion to manage the
>> code. I can definitely see the benefits of using it.
>>
>>
>>
>> I want to set-it-up with my existing projects.  And I would like some
>> advice on the best practice.
>>
>>
>>
>> I have several projects that I maintain.  I want to setup  each project
>> with its own repository.  I want to be able to promote my changes to
>> production with subversion.
>>
>>
>>
>> I currently develop on my laptop then upload to development and finally
>> production when ready to release my changes.
>>
>>
>>
>> I am thinking of setting up the repository on the development server.  I
>> can update the code one my laptop, commit those changes to the Development
>> server when I am ready to test them. Then when I am ready to release the
>> changes to production, I can promote the changes to production from the
>> repository.
>>
>>
>>
>> Finally my question, is this the best way to set up the Repository?
>>
>>
>>
>> I would appreciate any suggestions
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>>
>> Mike Demahy
>>
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