And Gary, as for google results often being old ones, well, consider first that some answers from back then may be as good now as then. Indeed, google ranks a result based on (among many other things of course) how often people open it and then don’t proceed to open another in the given search result list. They figure if people don’t go to another, it must be authoritative (or at least adequate).
Sadly that does mean that sometimes old, stinky answers do remain popular, despite being outdated. This is of course not unique to CF, but it adds to the situation you observed. And not taking away from Billy’s reasonable observations, there is a lot more positive about CF than you usually hear. As John pointed out, this whole week Adobe is giving several webinars on various facets of CF2016. The recording will be posted likely next week. And the first one was an overview by the Product Manager, Rakshith, where he both addressed your very concerns, and also highlighted recent improvements, and touted what’s planned for CF2018. But he also pointed out a point that few seem to realize: that CF adoption has grown by 20% on average between 2012 and 2017. That is an acknowledgement that while of course some have left CF (for all the aforementioned reasons in this thread and others, some justified and some perhaps misinformed/chicken little), clearly more have ADOPTED CF than have left it. You don’t hear that ever that sort of positive observation in any of the long-winded discussions which inevitably arise when this question is debated, which as Steve noted has sincerely been going on since the early 200’s. It’s great when there can be a reasoned discussion, as is happening here. It’s just too bad that it often happens elsewhere with only overwhelming negativity from those who either have left or feel compelled to persuade all listeners that “any thinking person” should. There are indeed more affirming points, like the Adobe CF Summit conference in Nov which grows in size each year. But there are surely plenty of challenges. I’m just saying it’s not as bad as many/most seem to want to make it out to be. BTW, as for the jobs issue I addressed that, pointing to resources offering hundreds of them (still today), in a recent post: http://www.carehart.org/blog/client/index.cfm/2007/3/11/FInding-ColdFusion-Jobs /charlie From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Gary McNeel Sent: Wednesday, August 2, 2017 05:40 AM To: Houston ColdFusion Users' Group <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [houcfug] Coldfusion DEAD Question Yes, that is what I see. I guess, as a non-hardcore-developer, more of an idea/product manager type, I find it perfect for my needs. Sadly, there may not be many of 'me' out here. At Jacob's I began to see the move to SharePoint withing NASA and moved us to .NET, which took some doing, as everyone, for the most part, was CF. But, like you, I missed many of the convenient bits and found the added complexity of .NET, in someways, more time consuming. Thanks for the lucid reply. I will keep doing my first pass on this app in CF, asking you guys for help as long as people monitor the group ;) and if it works okay hire someone to move it to another language. Regards, Gary -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "Houston ColdFusion Users' Group" discussion list. To unsubscribe, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit http://groups.google.com/group/houcfug?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Houston ColdFusion Users' Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
