I give the HPR admins explicit permission to edit my show notes as
they see fit.
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1. Permission to modify the show notes (Ken Fallon)
2. Re: Permission to modify the show notes (x1101)
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4. Re: Permission to modify the show notes (Bob Jonkman)
5. Re: Permission to modify the show notes (Kevin O'Brien)
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Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2017 21:42:39 +0200
From: Ken Fallon <k...@fallon.ie <mailto:k...@fallon.ie>>
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Subject: [Hpr] Permission to modify the show notes
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Hi All,
As you know we are going back over the old shows to add tags for
Archive.org. Nearly all the shows need tags, and summaries. Some even
need show notes, or to be placed in series. You can help - see the
main
page for more information.
In the process of doing it I was thinking it would be a good idea
to do
a bit of housekeeping on them. For example, fix the html, check the
links still work and point to where the host originally intended, etc.
I was asking Dave (who's leading this) what we should do if the show
notes need correcting. For example a show may benefit from having
"Google Reader was shut down on July 1, 2013, but this show is of
historical interest." _still not over that one :)_
The license is cc-by-sa, so we are allowed to do "derivative works" on
the show notes. To be honest most of the early shows didn't have show
notes so they were often added by the admins.
Our current policy as is defined in "hpr2210 :: On Freedom of
Speech and
Censorship" would seem to allow us to do this.
http://hackerpublicradio.org/eps.php?id=2210
<http://hackerpublicradio.org/eps.php?id=2210>
So the question is are we allowed to modify show notes ?
--
Regards,
Ken Fallon
http://kenfallon.com
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Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2017 15:46:50 -0400
From: x1101 <x1...@gmx.com <mailto:x1...@gmx.com>>
To: Ken Fallon <k...@fallon.ie <mailto:k...@fallon.ie>>
Cc: "hpr@hackerpublicradio.org <mailto:hpr@hackerpublicradio.org>"
<hpr@hackerpublicradio.org <mailto:hpr@hackerpublicradio.org>>
Subject: Re: [Hpr] Permission to modify the show notes
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I can?t think of a good reason why not.
I know folks have the option of releasing shows not CC-BY-SA, but
have they? If so, do we have a way to identify them and exclude
them from editing?
Also, for what its worth, I am herby explicitly giving the HPR
admins permission to modify my show note as needed.
/x1101
> On Jul 6, 2017, at 3:42 PM, Ken Fallon <k...@fallon.ie
<mailto:k...@fallon.ie>> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> As you know we are going back over the old shows to add tags for
> Archive.org. Nearly all the shows need tags, and summaries. Some
even
> need show notes, or to be placed in series. You can help - see
the main
> page for more information.
>
> In the process of doing it I was thinking it would be a good
idea to do
> a bit of housekeeping on them. For example, fix the html, check the
> links still work and point to where the host originally
intended, etc.
>
> I was asking Dave (who's leading this) what we should do if the show
> notes need correcting. For example a show may benefit from having
> "Google Reader was shut down on July 1, 2013, but this show is of
> historical interest." _still not over that one :)_
>
> The license is cc-by-sa, so we are allowed to do "derivative
works" on
> the show notes. To be honest most of the early shows didn't have
show
> notes so they were often added by the admins.
>
> Our current policy as is defined in "hpr2210 :: On Freedom of
Speech and
> Censorship" would seem to allow us to do this.
> http://hackerpublicradio.org/eps.php?id=2210
<http://hackerpublicradio.org/eps.php?id=2210>
>
> So the question is are we allowed to modify show notes ?
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Ken Fallon
> http://kenfallon.com
> http://hackerpublicradio.org/correspondents.php?hostid=30
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Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2017 16:20:43 -0400
From: Charles Thayer <cati...@yahoo.com <mailto:cati...@yahoo.com>>
To: x1101 <x1...@gmx.com <mailto:x1...@gmx.com>>
Cc: Ken Fallon <k...@fallon.ie <mailto:k...@fallon.ie>>,
"hpr@hackerpublicradio.org <mailto:hpr@hackerpublicradio.org>"
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Subject: Re: [Hpr] Permission to modify the show notes
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Go ahead, anyone, if brave ye be.
I was going to rework the notes myself before real life descended...
C
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jul 6, 2017, at 3:46 PM, x1101 <x1...@gmx.com
<mailto:x1...@gmx.com>> wrote:
>
> I can?t think of a good reason why not.
>
> I know folks have the option of releasing shows not CC-BY-SA,
but have they? If so, do we have a way to identify them and
exclude them from editing?
>
> Also, for what its worth, I am herby explicitly giving the HPR
admins permission to modify my show note as needed.
>
>
> /x1101
>> On Jul 6, 2017, at 3:42 PM, Ken Fallon <k...@fallon.ie
<mailto:k...@fallon.ie>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> As you know we are going back over the old shows to add tags for
>> Archive.org. Nearly all the shows need tags, and summaries.
Some even
>> need show notes, or to be placed in series. You can help - see
the main
>> page for more information.
>>
>> In the process of doing it I was thinking it would be a good
idea to do
>> a bit of housekeeping on them. For example, fix the html, check the
>> links still work and point to where the host originally
intended, etc.
>>
>> I was asking Dave (who's leading this) what we should do if the
show
>> notes need correcting. For example a show may benefit from having
>> "Google Reader was shut down on July 1, 2013, but this show is of
>> historical interest." _still not over that one :)_
>>
>> The license is cc-by-sa, so we are allowed to do "derivative
works" on
>> the show notes. To be honest most of the early shows didn't
have show
>> notes so they were often added by the admins.
>>
>> Our current policy as is defined in "hpr2210 :: On Freedom of
Speech and
>> Censorship" would seem to allow us to do this.
>> http://hackerpublicradio.org/eps.php?id=2210
<http://hackerpublicradio.org/eps.php?id=2210>
>>
>> So the question is are we allowed to modify show notes ?
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>>
>> Ken Fallon
>> http://kenfallon.com
>> http://hackerpublicradio.org/correspondents.php?hostid=30
<http://hackerpublicradio.org/correspondents.php?hostid=30>
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Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2017 17:00:37 -0400
From: Bob Jonkman <bjonk...@sobac.com <mailto:bjonk...@sobac.com>>
To: hpr@hackerpublicradio.org <mailto:hpr@hackerpublicradio.org>
Subject: Re: [Hpr] Permission to modify the show notes
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I've only got one show in there, but I contributed it to HPR. And even
though the HPR indicates the shows are CC-BY-SA I'm happy to release
my shows as CC-0, or even to transfer copyright to HPR. I did this for
HPR, not for me.
While I speak for no-one else, I suspect that'll be a sentiment common
to most HPR contributors.
So go ahead and fix, update, and alter show notes as needed.
- --Bob.
On 2017-07-06 03:46 PM, x1101 wrote:
> I can?t think of a good reason why not.
>
> I know folks have the option of releasing shows not CC-BY-SA, but
> have they? If so, do we have a way to identify them and exclude
> them from editing?
>
> Also, for what its worth, I am herby explicitly giving the HPR
> admins permission to modify my show note as needed.
>
>
> /x1101
>> On Jul 6, 2017, at 3:42 PM, Ken Fallon <k...@fallon.ie
<mailto:k...@fallon.ie>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> As you know we are going back over the old shows to add tags for
>> Archive.org. Nearly all the shows need tags, and summaries.
>> Some even need show notes, or to be placed in series. You can
>> help - see the main page for more information.
>>
>> In the process of doing it I was thinking it would be a good
>> idea to do a bit of housekeeping on them. For example, fix the
>> html, check the links still work and point to where the host
>> originally intended, etc.
>>
>> I was asking Dave (who's leading this) what we should do if the
>> show notes need correcting. For example a show may benefit from
>> having "Google Reader was shut down on July 1, 2013, but this
>> show is of historical interest." _still not over that one :)_
>>
>> The license is cc-by-sa, so we are allowed to do "derivative
>> works" on the show notes. To be honest most of the early shows
>> didn't have show notes so they were often added by the admins.
>>
>> Our current policy as is defined in "hpr2210 :: On Freedom of
>> Speech and Censorship" would seem to allow us to do this.
>> http://hackerpublicradio.org/eps.php?id=2210
<http://hackerpublicradio.org/eps.php?id=2210>
>>
>> So the question is are we allowed to modify show notes ?
>>
>> -- Regards,
>>
>> Ken Fallon http://kenfallon.com
>> http://hackerpublicradio.org/correspondents.php?hostid=30
<http://hackerpublicradio.org/correspondents.php?hostid=30>
>>
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Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2017 19:49:02 -0400
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I don't see any problem. The license allows it (CC-BY-SA), and more
importantly I doubt anyone will object to making their show better
for the
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<mailto:bjonk...@sobac.com>> wrote:
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> I've only got one show in there, but I contributed it to HPR.
And even
> though the HPR indicates the shows are CC-BY-SA I'm happy to release
> my shows as CC-0, or even to transfer copyright to HPR. I did
this for
> HPR, not for me.
>
> While I speak for no-one else, I suspect that'll be a sentiment
common
> to most HPR contributors.
>
> So go ahead and fix, update, and alter show notes as needed.
>
> - --Bob.
>
>
> On 2017-07-06 03:46 PM, x1101 wrote:
> > I can?t think of a good reason why not.
> >
> > I know folks have the option of releasing shows not CC-BY-SA, but
> > have they? If so, do we have a way to identify them and exclude
> > them from editing?
> >
> > Also, for what its worth, I am herby explicitly giving the HPR
> > admins permission to modify my show note as needed.
> >
> >
> > /x1101
> >> On Jul 6, 2017, at 3:42 PM, Ken Fallon <k...@fallon.ie
<mailto:k...@fallon.ie>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi All,
> >>
> >> As you know we are going back over the old shows to add tags for
> >> Archive.org. Nearly all the shows need tags, and summaries.
> >> Some even need show notes, or to be placed in series. You can
> >> help - see the main page for more information.
> >>
> >> In the process of doing it I was thinking it would be a good
> >> idea to do a bit of housekeeping on them. For example, fix the
> >> html, check the links still work and point to where the host
> >> originally intended, etc.
> >>
> >> I was asking Dave (who's leading this) what we should do if the
> >> show notes need correcting. For example a show may benefit from
> >> having "Google Reader was shut down on July 1, 2013, but this
> >> show is of historical interest." _still not over that one :)_
> >>
> >> The license is cc-by-sa, so we are allowed to do "derivative
> >> works" on the show notes. To be honest most of the early shows
> >> didn't have show notes so they were often added by the admins.
> >>
> >> Our current policy as is defined in "hpr2210 :: On Freedom of
> >> Speech and Censorship" would seem to allow us to do this.
> >> http://hackerpublicradio.org/eps.php?id=2210
<http://hackerpublicradio.org/eps.php?id=2210>
> >>
> >> So the question is are we allowed to modify show notes ?
> >>
> >> -- Regards,
> >>
> >> Ken Fallon http://kenfallon.com
> >> http://hackerpublicradio.org/correspondents.php?hostid=30
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