This is the issue I posted on the HPR channel.
https://matrix.to/#/#hpr:matrix.org
<quote>
/@SGOTI: While I do personally love your news shows, as a janitor I
have a few concerns about carrying them on HPR.//
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//The shows represent a problem as they are reporting/quoting on someone
else's copyrighted work. Therefore it represents a grey area as to if it
can be released under Creative Commons or not. We require that "you have
permission to redistribute your show in its entirety",
https://hackerpublicradio.org/stuff_you_need_to_know.php#permission.
While some jurisdictions may allow commenting on/quoting/referencing on
other peoples work, some also do not - so we are opting for certainty.//
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//Also, we have had experience with two other news show series on HPR in
the past. One by finux which petered out, and the other by Talk Geek to
Me. That show was syndicated, and was removed from HPR following
discussions on the Mail List. It prompted the rule
https://hackerpublicradio.org/stuff_you_need_to_know.php#syndication. At
the time there were questions as to the long term value of these shows,
as most of our shows get ½ of their audience in the long tail (way after
they are aired), and how well the fit in with the idea of a community
podcast dedicated to sharing knowledge.//
//
//Opinions may have changed over time, so I would suggest that if you
are intending on doing an news show you should contact the mail list for
community approval./
</quote>
The issue about syndication does not apply here, I was pointing out
other issues with news shows that arose during the discussions. Sorry
for any misunderstanding.
I cannot copy and paste the discussion been held on the matrix channel
without getting everyone's permission individually. So I've asked for
the discussions to be held here.
They make the point that Wikipedia quote non free articles, but in their
case they use their own copy to refer to the factual event. While the
news shows here are copying the sites content verbatim. While I may not
agree, there is a growing belief that news stories need to be paid for:
- https://www.bbc.com/news/business-56101859 Google to pay Murdoch's
News Corporation for stories
- https://gizmodo.com/google-news-pay-sites-facebook-eu-revenue-1848911440
-
https://www.investopedia.com/microsoft-msft-believes-tech-giants-should-pay-for-news-5112432
On 2023-05-19 16:30, Yung Lyun wrote:
Hello HPR Community.
I’m requesting assistance from the HPR community. A show I produce and
upload to HPR must be paused until we have the communities input;
nothing too bad just need more input before continuing.
First, I create and release the “Oh No! News” on HPR. It has been
brought to my attention that the shows content requires further review
and must be changed to comply with HPR’s community guidelines
(https://hackerpublicradio.org/stuff_you_need_to_know.php#permission).
Some of the shows contain direct quotes and **not** all jurisdictions
support “fair use”. This is a flaw/failure on my part and **if** the
show is allowed to continue, it must be brought inline with HPR
community guidelines.
Secondly, syndication concerns must be addressed
(https://hackerpublicradio.org/stuff_you_need_to_know.php#syndication).
When I created the HPR News, now the “Oh No! News”, I did **not**
considered syndication; I had no interest. Let me be very clear, at
**NO** point do I plan to seek syndication; I’m not interested. The
“Oh No! News” was/is created for the HPR community as a product we can
share, enjoy, and participate in without any limits. It is my way of
“giving back” to the community that has provided loads of information
and entertainment for me. I’ll be releasing a show with more
information on the subject soon.
Last, If it must go, then let it go. I’ve enjoyed creating the “Oh No!
News”, but I enjoy HPR more. If the show threatens the community or
isn’t accepted by the community I have no problem letting it go. No
decisions have been made and this is a call for all members of the HPR
community to weigh in on the matter. I ask that you voice your
concerns and/or provide any feedback at your earliest convenience.
Thanks,
SGOTI (Some Guy On The Internet).
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Regards,
Ken Fallon (PA7KEN,G5KEN)
https://kenfallon.com
https://hackerpublicradio.org/hosts/ken_fallon
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