Torger, I'd like to thank you very much again. I've explained many points
that I need to understand better. I'll really try to learn more about raw
and its post processing details. Thank you for these image examples, I
really appreciated. I have already printed in big sizes from some little
planets based on my 360 panos and I think this is an example where a raw
original file can make difference. I guess printed images show some details
you can't see on the screen.

Thanks!

Carlos E G Carvalho (Cartola)
http://cartola.org/360



2011/8/5 torger <tor...@ludd.ltu.se>

> On Aug 4, 9:43 pm, "Carlos Eduardo G. Carvalho (Cartola)"
> <cartol...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Do you have or know anywhere where I can see samples done with and
> without
> > raw? I have already seen some, but none have called my attention very
> much.
> >
> > Thanks!
>
> Just for fun, I took a Canon G11 compact camera hand held shot for
> which I had both JPG and RAW, and made a RAW conversion. It is not the
> best quality of the source material, a bit noisy and unsharp, but an
> interesting comparison nevertheless. I made my creative conversion a
> bit "over the top" on purpose.
>
> Unprocessed JPEG from camera highest quality (cropped the top though
> for better composition):
> http://www.torger.org/temp/img_jpg_unprocessed.jpg
>
> Here's the creative RAW conversion:
> http://www.torger.org/temp/img_from_raw.png
>
> Here's when I have tried to replicate as close as possible the same
> creative conversion but basing it on the original jpeg:
> http://www.torger.org/temp/img_from_jpg.png
>
> My intention of the creative composition was to enhance the sunlight
> and make it as saturated as experienced at sight, and increase
> generally the contrast in the clouds.
>
> Some observations:
>
> - You can make the same conversion using JPEG as source, so you get
> the same image but with worse technical quality.
> - The RAW version may look more noisy, because it has not been jpeg
> compressed and noise was so low that I did not reduce it further.
> Random noise is better to keep for prints than removing it which dulls
> colors and kills detail.
> - On a quick view of reduced size images the JPEG version may look
> better.
> - Banding/block artifacts not visible in the orignal jpeg has become
> visible after processing, for example in the bright parts of the sky.
> - The RAW conversion gains from highlight recovery in the brightest
> part of sunlight.
> - The RAW conversion has a bit better detail, no smearing from JPEG
> compression
> - The JPG conversion has lost details in the low contrast parts of the
> remote landscape due to lack of tones, which are still there in the
> RAW conversion
> - I did not correct CA for the JPEG, was not easy to do with my
> software (rawtherapee), but automatic for RAW.
>
> In short - don't expect RAW and 16 bit workflows to "blow you away",
> there are a number of subtle quality improvements which at least I
> find important. I don't like the idea of spending lots and lots of
> money on cameras and lenses just to throw away quality in post.
>
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