On 02/21/2013 11:47 AM, JohnPW wrote:
On Thursday, February 21, 2013 1:01:17 AM UTC-6, GnomeNomad wrote:
I did. I never said OS X was never OSS. I said it had moved so far
beyond its OSS foundation (Darwin) that in my opinion it's no longer
OSS.
No, it was *I* who was saying that OS X was never OSS, (because it never
was.) I was simply pointing out it's standard OSS underpinnings
(perfectly good for running OSS, even if it's not the most popular
platform for doing so.) But forget it, as this is getting silly.
Yup!
In a strict
interpretation of some OSS licenses, some might say that *OS X would be
in violation of those licenses*.
"Some might might say" that the earth is flat and the moon is made of
green cheese, but so what.?
Strict or lax, interpretation of "some OSS licensing schemes" is
irrelevant, since Apple and OS X don't violate the licenses that apply
to the code they use.
True. Darwin uses the BSD license, right?
But this isn't making Hugin any better, regardless of platform it
happens to run on. Now Hugin on a Google Nexus 10 - that would be
interesting!
Go for it!
And could you also maintain an iOS compatible version? Or is that too
much to ask? ;-)**
I truly wish I has some coding talent so I could help out. But as I've
said elsewhere, I'm an UI/UX guy!
I'm no developer. I've done some usability and program design work, but
not fancy stuff. Someone else would need to develop an Android or iOS
port of Hugin. Maybe after Hugin team gets the new Mac folk up to speed?
A touch UI would make dragging images into rough alignment pretty easy,
I'd think. And zooming in and out.
Connected with another graphic interest of mine (fractals) the venerable
(and powerful) DOS Fractint program runs well on Android tablets using
aDosBox (DOS system emulator app), supporting screen resolutions higher
than those of the tablets it runs on.
John
**[actually have you checked out the panorama feature on the iPhone? I
didn't expect much from it but it's actually pretty darn good (for
partial panoramas.) I've only tried similar panorama features on P&S
cameras before, but the Apple SW does a better job than I've seen there.
I wonder how they have optimized the software and what, if any, OSS
libraries it uses. I'll have to take a look at the credits.]
On 02/20/2013 09:24 AM, JohnPW wrote:
> Me, "I'm sure you know that *Darwin is an OSS OS*"
> You, "*OS X* has moved so far beyond its Darwin roots that in my
opinion
> it *is no longer open source*"
>
> Me, [my point being OS X *was **never* open source] ". . . you're
> misinformed about Darwin and OS X. After all, *Darwin is an Apple
led
> OSS effort* and OS X (Apple's complete *commercial OS, which is not
> OSS*) consists of a number of other software parts (some
proprietary,
> and some not) . . . *all running atop Darwin*."
> You, "Sounds like *OS X is proprietary*, to me*- not OSS*. It may
have a
> slab of Darwin OSS beneath it, but *OS X is not Darwin*."
>
> Did you read anything I wrote before you commented on it? :-)
>
> John
>
> On Wednesday, February 20, 2013 2:30:17 AM UTC-6, GnomeNomad wrote:
>
> So to turn Darwin into OS X, we only need to add a number of
other
> items, particularly key Apple-proprietary (non-OSS) pieces.
Sounds like
> OS X is proprietary, to me - not OSS. It may have a slab of
Darwin OSS
> beneath it, but OS X is not Darwin. So OS X is no longer OSS.
Doesn't
> sound strange to me at all!
>
> Anyway, I've used OS X (and Windows and OS/2 and Linux), too.
Glad you
> enjoy it!
>
> On 02/19/2013 01:14 PM, JohnPW wrote:
> > I'm sure your an expert in your bailiwick, but I think you're
> > misinformed about Darwin and OS X. After all, Darwin is an
Apple
> led OSS
> > effort and OS X (Apple's complete commercial OS, which is
not OSS)
> > consists of a number of other software parts (some
proprietary,
> and some
> > not) such as OpenGL QuickTime, Quartz, Cocoa, and the Aqua
UI, all
> > running atop Darwin. So to say "OS X has moved so far
beyond its
> Darwin
> > roots that in my opinion it is no longer open source." is
a strange
> > thing to say in any of a number of ways.
> > In any case, I applaud efforts, of all kinds, to create good
> software
> > for people to use. And I love my Mac that's running OS X
(which
> stands
> > on the shoulders of OSS just as Linux does.)
> > If you think Linux is the best thing since sliced bread, then
> more power
> > to you. Because I think people deserve to use whatever OS
they
> decide
> > they like (with all the good and bad trade-offs entailed
in their
> > choice.) :-)
> >
> > On Monday, February 18, 2013 1:17:07 PM UTC-6, GnomeNomad
wrote:
> >
> >
> > OS X has moved so far beyond its Darwin roots that in my
> opinion it is
> > no longer open source. You can't get yourself a full
copy of
> Mac OS
> > X by
> > simply downloading the Darwin source and compiling it ...
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