You might want to checkout bitbucket.org instead of github. They support 
mercurial and git and have friendlier free accounts. But I agree the market has 
spoken and git has won the day. Bitbucket also support issue tracking and a 
wiki though I have not used the wiki support. 

Charlie

On May 30, 2013, at 11:19 AM, Yuv <goo...@levy.ch> wrote:

> Hi Hugin community, long time no seen.  Change is inevitable, some of
> it good, some of it bad.  Today I report what is in my opinion very
> bad change to Hugin's infrastructure brought about by Sourceforge; and
> I plead for a simple fix: migrate Hugin's code to a better
> alternative, probably Github.
> 
> I have not had much time for Hugin lately, not even to take pictures,
> but the commit notifications from the repositories kept me updated on
> what was going on in the code.  Hugin's code lives in Mercurial, a
> wonderful distributed revision control system that by default sends
> self-contained, informative emails on every commit.
> 
> Sourceforge has "upgraded" its project hosting and Hugin, Enblend,
> Panotools have all been migrated to the new system, which IMHO can be
> summarized with a single short word: CRAP.  The new commit emails are
> spammy.  The information is incomplete.  To get the full picture, one
> must log on to SF's website, where the display is inefficient to say
> the least.
> 
> For me, I have unsubscribed from SF.  This means that I will be even
> more disconnected from Hugin.  I do not know what other developers do,
> especially those who are no longer active on a day to day basis?
> 
> The solution I suggest is to migrate repositories.  I migrated Hugin
> from Subversion to Mercurial, both on the old SF infrastructure when
> it was still good, and I can pull such a migration again.  Actually a
> migration now will be even easier.  The dVCS have matured and there
> are many more tools available.  The difficult part of such a migration
> project is selecting the target.
> 
> First of all, I believe it should be the same target for all related
> tools -- Hugin, Panotools, Enblend -- for the same reason why I
> migrated all three of them to the same Mercurial-based repository and
> to the same Launchpad-based bug tracker years ago: tools
> simplification.  Before moving we need consensus amongst the
> developers, first and foremost those that are currently most active.
> Your opinions?
> 
> Second, the choice of tool.  A few years ago the choice was Mercurial
> because of better Windows support and because of the ease to add
> customized hooks (Python).  In the meantime things have changed.  At
> the moment, it seems that the preferred tool is git, specifically
> Github
> 
> http://programmers.stackexchange.com/questions/164618/why-are-many-programmers-moving-their-code-to-github
> 
> I have been away for too long.  Is there any other tool that we should
> consider?  I heard some good things about code review tools such as
> Gerrit, but I know too little about the state of code hosting.
> Anybody care to share their insights on this?  I remember witnessing
> an off-list developers conversation where somebody suggested a tool
> that was automatically connected with a buildbot to produce nightly
> binaries?
> 
> How do people feel about moving the code away from SourceForge?  We've
> already moved the bug tracker away.  If there is consensus around the
> idea, and if nobody does it, I might be able to make some time at the
> end of August before school starts again.  I will leave the idea and
> the thought with you, please discuss here, and will look back in a few
> weeks to see if there is real interest or if it is just me who is fed
> up with SourceForge.
> 
> Of course, if anybody with more time and skill than me is willing to
> pull this, they will have my support, but if nobody takes action, I
> hope at least that you will support me in letting me do this.  At the
> end of the process, Sourceforge will serve solely as host for the
> downloads and the web pages.
> 
> Thank you for considering this idea.
> Yuv
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