To call us collateral damage would be to acknowledge us. We are not
even given that recognition.

I'm getting fed up of repeating myself as well. Correlation does not
prove causation.

If you really wanted to get to the bottom of this then you would
listen to what I am saying also.

I am well aware of the tactics used by large corporations. Profits
before people is their motto. But they are not the only ones that use
these methods. Now you understand that, take a look at your
government. Secrets are an essential part of the way they operate.
Lying is the most essential skill of any polititian. Deviousness and
subterfuge is their default setting. And they have been at it for
centuries. Their methods are well practiced and honed.

Vic, you sound angry and you are hitting out at the first thing that
you see. IF you are genuine then I would like to help. IF you are
really suffering then please do not leave this forum. We need all the
support we can get. Somebody has actually cracked this problem and it
involves some long established military secrects. The only hope is to
stick together.

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