On Sep 5, 2012, at 11:08 AM, Samuel Thibault wrote:

>> No.  It's not really an ltdl issue.  ltdl is just a portable wrapper around 
>> OS-specific dlopen-like mechanisms.  
> 
> I understand that, but dlopen is usually used for plugins, and plugins
> usually need such kind of calling back into what loaded the plugin.

Sure.  It's really a matter of the linker scopes. 

IIRC, in a somewhat-recent version of ltdl (I don't remember the version 
offhand -- perhaps somewhere in the 2.2 series?), they changed the default of 
lt_dlopen to start opening plugins in private scopes, not the global scope.  
That's what has contributed to this hubaloo -- by default, plugins can no 
longer see the global scope, which is typically where the symbols are that they 
need to resolve (e.g., in the libhwloc.so that is linked in to lstopo).

>>> One way would be to pass to the component a structure with all the
>>> useful function pointers (using #define to keep the same source code).
>> 
>> We thought about this in OMPI and decided it would be a nightmare in the 
>> source code.
> 
> The source code shouldn't need to be modified:
> 
> #define hwloc_foo_bar(arg1, arg2) hwloc_funcs->foo_bar(arg1, arg2)


You need to make sure that #define is only effected in certain places in the 
code.  And you need to ensure that hwloc_funcs->[foo] isn't attempted to be 
used before it has been filled in.  And unless there is a very fixed set of 
functions that can be called by plugins, you'll probably need to grow 
hwloc_funcs over time, which may lead to ABI issues...?

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