But the fact of the matter is, the MPC2000XL is still better than the
SP-808. It doesn't have much for effects though. My suggestion, if you have
the cash...buy a Yamaha A3000, 4000 or 5000 that has pretty much double what
the MPC2000XL has, plus 93 effects, and then buy a sequencer like the RM1x,
it'll be a hard combination to beat then.
Dustin
----- Original Message -----
From: Douglas R. Kraul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2000 9:51 AM
Subject: Re: SU700 vs. SP-808 vs. MPC2000XL
> >
> > Can the SU700 actually record audio signals inputted through using the
> > 'audio in' pad? Could I have samples looping on other pads and record
> > vocals as part of the mix?
>
> You can not sample external signals while the SU700 is playing. The
> resampling function is limited to bouncing track or tracks (including any
> real-time tweaking you do).
>
> >
> > I know that the SP-808 can do this but my problem with the SP-808 is
> that
> > I heard that it's not quite the best thing for sequencing rapid note
info
> > (e.g. using pads to tap in individual drum sounds to create a pattern).
> > That's why I took a look at the SU700 -- because it seems to have pads
> that
> > actually allow a user to build up patterns based on individual hits.
>
> This is true. The SP808 has some issues with how short a sample it can
play
> and how rapidly the pads are triggered. If building up loops with samples
> is your goal the SU700 is a much better instrument then the SP808. Of
> course the Akai MPC series is really the benchmark for this.
>
> >
> > By the way, how 'intuitive' is the MPC at handling loops? Can you
tweak
> > loops in realtime to get a 'perfect fit' or match the tempos of
different
> > samples?
> >
> Sucks! At least in my experience with pre-XL MPCs. Best to think of the
> MPC as a single shot sample triggering sequencer (mouth full!!). The XL
> adds looping and some features for tempo shifting or pitch shifting the
> loops so this might be better then it was. But I find the effective way
of
> building loops that need to have tempo adjusted in the MPC is to just
> sequence each hit. This sort of implies something like ReCycle if your
into
> grabbing loops from recordings. Unfortunately the MPC series does not do
> SCSI sample dumps so it is not a joy to use with ReCycle.
>
> With out a doubt the SP808 is easiest to use for sampling things and then
> getting the loops adjusted right. But it is done with a clever way of
> showing what tempo the loop is currently at while you adjust sample
length.
>
> On the SU700 once the loop is trimmed you have something like a ReCycle
> effect going on for the looped pads. Trimming the loops though is pretty
> much a by ear only adventure. Not a great job on the ease of use here but
> adequate.
>
> > I saw some info about the MPC2000XL that mentioned that it now
supports
> > 'multitracking'. Does that mean then that it can be used in a similar
> > fashion to the SP-808 -- recording vocals to a sample pad while the
> > previously recorded elements are running? Can the SU700 record audio to
> an
> > empty pad while playing back previously sequenced data?
> >
> I don't think this is true with the XL. I believe this is refering to the
> fact that the XL now is multitimbral - up to four sample sets active a t
> atime (like having four drum kits).
>
> While the SP808 can sample while playing up to three of its pads (as well
as
> grabbing audio in) it will not be something you can do in the middle of a
> song if the SP808 is part of the ongoing song. The reason is that the
SP808
> stops playing after the sample is taken.
>
> As mentioned above the SU700 can not sample external material while
playing.
>
> Frankly I am not aware of anything that can do this in a live situation.
> Maybe a sampler?
>
> drk
>
> www.delora.com/music
>
>
