Well, its not like we are neccesarily asking for anything that would further
tax the processor in the su700. I mean, all the stuff that we could ever
want it to do processor-wise is already there and is freakin outstanding
as-is. Thats why I believe the consensus with the su700 is that they should
just increase the midi implementation to a more standard type which wouldnt
tax the processor any more but would simply allow a user to tool around with
su700 in a more typical normal sampler type role by having various midi note
values be mapped to pitches. Other than that, the thing absolutely rox but
once i got it and saw the "one-shot" nature of the midi implementation I
ended up taking it back.. Even then, it was tossup since the unit sounded
great and was loads of fun even with the shortcomings but I decided I would
free up the cash to get something a little more useful in my setup.
Rob
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Subject: Re: su700->short-comings (was: SV: SU700 -> F*CK-ASS!)
> I hope nobody minds me changing the name of this thread, having that old
title popping up is enough to make me want to unsubscribe (it's the caps
that bother, mostly). One thing that most people seem to forget is that
it's often good to have dedicated machines for certain jobs, having a
machine that can do everything is great, that's why we have computers, but
more often than not the usability gets buried by the flexibility &,
inevitably, so does your creativity (that's not to say that a deep machine
isn't inspiring in it's own way, but that's a different kind of creativity).
Personally, I'm at the point in my life that a machine that doesn't inhibit
creativity is worth more than anything, & I'm more than happy to spend a
little extra dough to augment an intuitive loop/hit sampler w/ something
legit.
>
> That said, the esi-4000 did the best job of combining features w/
intuitiveness; I use an mpc/k2000 combo, myself.
>
> Eric Dahlberg
>
> << Okay, heres where I chime in and wink at Jay to come back me on this!
;)
>
> So, the su700 cannot play pitched sampled via midi. But, it CAN change the
> pitch of an individual sample. So, why doesnt someone at Yamaha redo the
> midi implementation so it has a one-midi-channel per track mode that
> supports midi note number to pitch? How hard could it be? All the hard
stuff
> is already done! :)
>
> I think Yamaha are really missing a great opportunity to really have a
> definite mpc/440 killer that can be used in either mode.
>
> I would love to use the thing just as a sampler because of the excellent
> knob per voice features and the great editing.
>
> Yeah, yeah, you will all say "Well thats not what the thing is for" but it
> really could be and it could do it fairly easily if Yammy would bang
around
> on the code for only a day or so. I have watched good embedded programmers
> go from only ideas and specs to complete working systems like that in only
a
> couple of days! I see them do it on a monthly basis.
>
> Just my .002 cents. ;)
>
> Rob
>
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> From: wasted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 7:29 PM
> Subject: Re: SV: SU700 -> F*CK-ASS!
>
>
> > I agree with spesimen. I depends on what you want to use it for. Like
> any musical instrument, sampler or otherwise, it has its capabilities,
> limitations, and idiosyncracies. If the other person was looking for the
> SU700 to be basically a full-fledged sampler with keyboard mapping of
> samples by pitch then no, the SU700 doesn't do that very easily. It's not
> the same as a "professional" sampler like the a3k/a4k/a5k, Akai S-Series
> samplers, etc. The SU700 is more like the Roland SP808 or ASR-X Pro in
that
> it's meant primarily for loops, composed, sampled or otherwise. Different
> strokes for different folks. While you might be unhappy with the way it
> works, many others bought the SU700 just for that reason. I love the
built
> in sequencer, loads of tracks running at the same time (40) and many
> built-in EFX (43), along with the ease of use in composing tracks. Just
my
> $.02.
> >
> > --wasted
> >
> > On Thu, 25 May 2000 17:50:57 SPeSiMen wrote:
> > >i disagree, i think the su700 is an awesome and very useful piece of
> gear.
> > >
> > >it really just depends on your working style.
> > >
> > >i have used an asr-x, eps-16+, kurz k2000, and several "software"
> samplers, and the su700 is the finest one i've used yet for live
performance
> work.
> > >
> > >it isn't particularly powerful as far as "playing" samples goes, that
is
> true - however, my music is comprised mostly of drum sounds (one shot
> samples) and loops that i've created with other synths and sequencers.
> because of this, it meshes perfectly with what i need - simple, pattern
> based, with tons of great effects (including a nice compressor) and lots
of
> live tweakability.
> > >
> > >none of my other samplers have been able to let me tweak filters and
> effects and stuff "on the fly" with as much ease or with as many knobs at
> once - paging through several menus to mute or adjust a track level
doesn't
> really make me happy.
> > >
> > >basically for me it has been a huge timesaver and is really fun to work
> with too.. of course the limitations don't bug me too much because i have
> other gear to make up for them, i can see how not having a good way to
make
> a string section or something with it might be a limitation for some.. but
> as an urban beat box assault unit it is excellent.
> > >
> > >regards
> > >andy c
> > >infocalpyse recordings
> > >www.sonicwisdom.org
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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> >>
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