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> From: Felipe Barros > Date: February 14, 2019 at 12:18:13 AM > Hello and, first of all, thank you for your work! It's amazing! > Maybe I'm just not the target for Hyperbole, or maybe it's just too much work > and nobody getting paid to do it (completely understandable), but I would > like to refresh the discussion around splitting Hyperbole into many packages. > > I for once would love to use Koutlines and nothing else for some time. it's > an amazing tool in its own right. Klinks are magical, and I would surely like > to dedicate time to master its ways and incorporate its powers into my > workflow. I know it would be great (the idea is brilliant), but I don't have > the time right now so maybe this is something I would have to leave to a > holiday or something. The other parts don't really interest me right now, but > I'm sure they have the potential to. > > I have tried Hyperbole many times already, and have a few kotl files hanging > around, but every single time, a short time after I get amazed positively, I > just to end up removing it because it changes oh so many things (it's very > opinionated, which I don't think is bad per se, but adds a lot of pressure). > Its much more functionality than I can handle learning at once. And I can't > focus on the whole thing at a time. > > Maybe, if someone is beginning a new Emacs configuration from scratch and > picks it up straight away, this wouldn't be the case. But realistically, how > many are still entering Emacs this way? I can only conjecture, but as far as > I see, most people at least start through a pre-built configuration that, if > you install Hyperbole on top, will break in unexpected ways. > > The way I see it, it is clear that this is a bundle of many packages with > related but disparate functionalities, and that releasing those packages > separately would, I believe, increase adoption of some tools that are being > hindered by other, less understood ones. Maybe this would attract new > contributors to the project, give it a fresh air, and allow some of it to be > easily integrated into many Emacs workflows. Allow it the glory it deserves :) > > It's not only me. Every single time I try to introduce someone to the > niceties of Hyperbole, they also get overwhelmed and just run away or never > even try it. Especially because they don't think they need it! We have a > powerful outline tool, ways of managing contacts, ways of dealing with the > frame (tiling window managers for example) and the windows. We even have > excellent packages that gives us on the fly overview of key-bindings > available under C-c, C-x, M-s, C-h, etc. The Emacs landscape has changed a > lot. Why should one install a bundle on top of all they have (and that works) > and be forced to deal with the way others idealized the whole Emacs > experience? In this busy world, it's unfortunately harsh. > > I know this is an old topic and I hope that I'm not offending you by bringing > this up again, but since the package is now available here on Github, others > may come looking for answers on the subject. My hope is to better understand > the reasoning behind the bundle and, if possible, to constructively think of > ways to lower the barrier of entry. > > Again, thank you! > > — > You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. > Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub, or mute the thread.
