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From: "Yohannes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: LUCIFER -- BUKAN SETAN KATA YOHANNES...???!!!

On 15/06/2004 at 1:36 PM "Adam Liauw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Dear Brother Yohannes yang budiman,

Yohannes:
Wah, membaca subject dengan huruf kapital semua, plus tanda tanya dan
tanda seru bertubi-tubi, kayaknya Saudara sedang "kepanasan".
Seyogianya pengikut Kristus tidak terbawa-bawa emosi yang negatif dan
Saudara tentu tahu makna huruf kapital semua dalam 'nettiquette'.

> Setelah Brother Yohannes mulai menyelaskan bahwa Lucifer bukan Setan
> tetapi Raja Tirus saya coba mulai membaca ayat Yesaya 14 kembali dan
> yang saya dapati adalah sbb:

Yohannes:
Bukan hanya saya, tetapi silakan kaji tulisan tentang 'Lucifer' baik
dari artikel maupun 'entry' dari kamus yang pernah saya kutip.

> Kalau benar Lucifer adalah raja Tirus apa mungkin attributes sbb
> diberikan kepada seorang manusia:
>
> 1.  Fallen from heaven....

Yohannes:
Apakah Saudara akan mencomot ungkapan "fallen from heaven" saja tanpa
memperhatikan konteks Yesaya 14:1-23 yang isinya adalah ejekan tentang
raja Babel?

Kata 'heaven', Ibrani: 'SY�MAYIM' itu bukan hanya berarti "surga"
tetapi juga bermakna "langit" tempat bintang-bintang, bahkan "udara"
tempat burung-burung terbang. LAI pun tidak menerjemahkannya "jatuh
dari surga" melainkan "jatuh dari langit" sesuai dengan ungkapan
"bintang Timur".

> 2.  I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars
> of God...
> 3.  I will ascent above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the
> most High...
>
> Apa mungkin seorang raja manusia biasa dapat jatuh dari Surga, naik
> ke surga, menaikkan tahhtanya lebih tinggi dari bintang bintang Tuhan
> dan Dia akan naik keatas awan dan akan seperti Allah?

Yohannes:
Saudara tentu bukan seorang anak kecil yang tidak dapat membedakan
ungkapan alegoris atau bahasa lambang dengan kenyataan.

> Apa lebih besar kemungkinannya oknum yang difirmankan adalah oknum
> malaikat?
>
> Saya orang yang bodoh mohon diberi penyelasan.  Terimah kasih.

Yohannes:
Saudara suka dengan bahasa Inggris, kali ini saya kutip penjelasan dari
Full Matthew Henry Comentary yang juga mengatakan bahwa Lucifer itu
bukan nama Iblis, bukan hanya saya saja.

Ver. 4. thru Ver. 23.

The kings of Babylon, successively, were the great enemies and
oppressors of God's people, and therefore the destruction of Babylon,
the fall of the king, and the ruin of his family, are here particularly
taken notice of and triumphed in. In the day that God has given Israel
rest they shall take up this proverb against the king of Babylon. We
must not rejoice when our enemy falls, as ours; but when Babylon, the
common enemy of God and his Israel, sinks, then rejoice over her, thou
heaven, and you holy apostles and prophets, Revelation 18:20. The
Babylonian monarchy bade fair to be an absolute, universal, and
perpetual one, and, in these pretensions, vied with the Almighty; it is
therefore very justly, not only brought down, but insulted over when it
is down; and it is not only the last monarch, Belshazzar, who was slain
on that night that Babylon was taken (Daniel 5:30), who is here
triumphed over, but the whole monarchy, which sunk in him; not without
special reference to Nebuchadnezzar, in whom that monarchy was at its
height. Now here,

I. The fall of the king of Babylon is rejoiced in; and a most curious
and elegant composition is here prepared, not to adorn his hearse or
monument, but to expose his memory and fix a lasting brand of infamy
upon it. It gives us an account of the life and death of this mighty
monarch, how he went down slain to the pit, though he had been the
terror of the mighty in the land of the living, Ezekiel 32:27. In this
parable we may observe,

1. The prodigious height of wealth and power at which this monarch and
monarchy arrived. Babylon was a golden city, Isaiah 14:4 (it is a
Chaldee word in the original, which intimates that she used to call
herself so), so much did she abound in riches and excel all other
cities, as gold does all other metals. She is gold-thirsty, or an
exactress of gold (so some read it); for how do men get wealth to
themselves but by squeezing it out of others? The New Jerusalem is the
only truly golden city, Revelation 21:18,21. The king of Babylon,
having so much wealth in his dominions and the absolute command of it,
by the help of that ruled the nations (Isaiah 14:6), gave them law,
read them their doom, and at his pleasure weakened the nations (Isaiah
14:12), that they might not be able to make head against him. Such vast
and victorious armies did he bring into the field, that, which way
soever he looked, he made the earth to tremble, and shook kingdoms
(Isaiah 14:16); all his neighbours were afraid of him, and were forced
to submit to him. No one man could do this by his own personal
strength, but by the numbers he has at his beck. Great tyrants, by
making some do what they will, make others suffer what they will. How
piteous is the case of mankind, which thus seems to be in a combination
against itself, and its own rights and liberties, which could not be
ruined but by its own strength!

2. The wretched abuse of all this wealth and power, which the king of
Babylon was guilty of, in two instances:-

(1.) Great oppression and cruelty. He is known by the name of the
oppressor (Isaiah 14:4); he has the sceptre of the rulers (Isaiah
14:5), has the command of all the princes about him; but it is the
staff of the wicked, a staff with which he supports himself in his
wickedness and wickedly strikes all about him. He smote the people, not
in justice, for their correction and reformation, but in wrath (Isaiah
14:6), to gratify his own peevish resentments, and that with a
continual stroke, pursued them with his forces, and gave them no
respite, no breathing time, no cessation of arms. He ruled the nations,
but he ruled them in anger, every thing he said and did was in a
passion; so that he who had the government of all about him had no
government of himself. He made the world as a wilderness, as if he had
taken a pride in being the plague of his generation and a curse to
mankind, Isaiah 14:17. Great princes usually glory in building cities,
but he gloried in destroying them; see Psalms 9:6. Two particular
instances, worse than all the rest, are here given of his tyranny:-

[1.] That he was severe to his captives (Isaiah 14:17): He opened not
the house of his prisoners; he did not let them loose homeward (so the
margin reads it); he kept them in close confinement, and never would
suffer any to return to their own land. This refers especially to the
people of the Jews, and it is that which fills up the measure of the
king of Babylon's iniquity, that he had detained the people of God in
captivity and would by no means release them; nay, and by profaning the
vessels of God's temple at Jerusalem, did in effect say that they
should never return to their former use, Daniel 5:3. For this he was
quickly and justly turned out by one whose first act was to open the
house of God's prisoners and send home the temple vessels.

[2.] That he was oppressive to his own subjects (Isaiah 14:20): Thou
hast destroyed thy land, and slain thy people; and what did he get by
that, when the wealth of the land and the multitude of the people are
the strength and honour of the prince, who never rules so safely, so
gloriously, as in the hearts and affections of the people? But tyrants
sacrifice their interests to their lusts and passions; and God will
reckon with them for their barbarous usage of those who are under their
power, whom they think they may use as they please.

(2.) Great pride and haughtiness. Notice is here taken of his pomp, the
extravagance of his retinue, Isaiah 14:11. He affected to appear in the
utmost magnificence. But that was not the worst: it was the temper of
his mind, and the elevation of that, that ripened him for ruin (Isaiah
14:13-14): Thou has said in thy heart, like Lucifer, I will ascend into
heaven. Here is the language of his vainglory, borrowed perhaps from
that of the angels who fell, who not content with their first estate,
the post assigned them, would vie with God, and become not only
independent of him, but equal with him. Or perhaps it refers to the
story of Nebuchadnezzar, who, when he would be more than a man, was
justly turned into a brute, Daniel 4:30. The king of Babylon here
promises himself,

[1.] That in pomp and power he shall surpass all his neighbours, and
shall arrive at the very height of earthly glory and felicity, that he
shall be as great and happy as this world can make him; that is the
heaven of a carnal heart, and to that he hopes to ascend, and to be as
far above those about him as the heaven is above the earth. Princes are
the stars of God, which give some light to this dark world (Matthew
24:29); but he will exalt his throne above them all.

[2.] That he shall particularly insult over God's Mount Zion, which
Belshazzar, in his last drunken frolic, seems to have had a particular
spite against when he called for the vessels of the temple at
Jerusalem, to profane them; see Daniel 5:2. In the same humour he here
said, I will sit upon the mount of the congregation (it is the same
word that is used for the holy convocations), in the sides of the
north; so Mount Zion is said to be situated, Psalms 48:2. Perhaps
Belshazzar was projecting an expedition to Jerusalem, to triumph in the
ruins of it, at the time when God cut him off.

[3.] That he shall vie with the God of Israel, of whom he had indeed
heard glorious things, that he had his residence above the heights of
the clouds.

"But thither, " says he, "will I ascend, and be as great as he; I will
be like him whom they call the Most High."

It is a gracious ambition to covet to be like the Most Holy, for he has
said, Be you holy, for I am holy; but it is a sinful ambition to aim to
be like the Most High, for he has said, He that exalteth himself shall
be abased, and the devil drew our first parents in to eat forbidden
fruit by promising them that they should be as gods.

[4.] That he shall himself be deified after his death, as some of the
first founders of the Assyrian monarchy were, and stars had even their
names from them.

"But, " says he, "I will exalt my throne above them all."

Such as this was his pride, which was the undoubted omen of his
destruction.

3. The utter ruin that should be brought upon him. It is foretold,

(1.) That his wealth and power should be broken, and a final period put
to his pomp and pleasure. He has been long an oppressor, but he shall
cease to be so, Isaiah 14:4. Had he ceased to be so by true repentance
and reformation, according to the advice Daniel gave to Nebuchadnezzar,
it might have been a lengthening of his life and tranquillity. But
those that will not cease to sin God will make to cease.

"The golden city, which one would have thought might continue for ever,
has ceased; there is an end of that Babylon. The Lord, the righteous
God, has broken the staff of that wicked prince, broken it over his
head, in token of the divesting him of his office. God has taken his
power from him, and rendered him incapable of doing any more mischief:
he has broken the sceptres; for even these are brittle things, soon
broken and often justly."

(2.) That he himself should be seized: He is persecuted (Isaiah 14:6);
violent hands are laid upon him, and none hinders. It is the common
fate of tyrants, when they fall into the power of their enemies, to be
deserted by their flatterers, whom they took for their friends. We read
of another enemy like this, of whom it is foretold that he shall come
to his end and none shall help him, Daniel 11:45. Tiberius and Nero
thus saw themselves abandoned.

(3.) That he should be slain, and go down to the congregation of the
dead, to be free among them, as the slain that are no more remembered,
Psalms 88:5. He shall be weak as the dead are, and like unto them,
Isaiah 14:10. His pomp is brought down to the grave (Isaiah 14:11),
that is, it perishes with him; the pomp of his life shall not, as
usual, end in a funeral pomp. True glory (that is, true grace) will go
up with the soul to heaven, but vain pomp will go down with the body to
the grave: there is an end of it. The noise of his viols is now heard
no more. Death is a farewell to the pleasures, as well as to the pomps,
of this world. This mighty prince, that used to lie on a bed of down,
to tread upon rich carpets, and to have coverings and canopies
exquisitely fine, now shall have the worms spread under him and the
worms covering him, worms bred out of his own putrefied body, which,
though he fancied himself a god, proved him to be made of the same
mould with other men. When we are pampering and decking our bodies it
is good to remember they will be worms'-meat shortly.

(4.) That he should not have the honour of a burial, much less of a
decent one and in the sepulchres of his ancestors. The kings of the
nations lie in glory (Isaiah 14:18), either their dead bodies
themselves so embalmed as to be preserved from putrefaction, as of old
among the Egyptians, or their effigies (as with us) erected over their
graves. Thus, as if they would defy the ignominy of death, they lay in
a poor faint sort of glory, every one in his own house, that is, his
own burying-place (for the grave is the house appointed for all
living), a sleeping house, where the busy and troublesome will lie
quiet and the troubled and weary lie at rest. But this king of Babylon
is cast out and has no grave (Isaiah 14:19); his dead body is thrown,
like that of a beast, into the next ditch or upon the next dunghill,
like an abominable branch of some noxious poisonous plant, which nobody
will touch, or as the clothes of malefactors put to death and by the
hand of justice thrust through with a sword, on whose dead bodies heaps
of stones are raised, or they are thrown into some deep quarry among
the stones of the pit. Nay, the king of Babylon's dead body shall be as
the carcases of those who are slain in a battle, which are trodden
under feet by the horses and soldiers and crushed to pieces. Thus he
shall not be joined with his ancestors in burial, Isaiah 14:20. To be
denied decent burial is a disgrace, which, if it be inflicted for
righteousness' sake (as Psalms 79:2), may, as other similar reproaches,
be rejoiced in (Matthew 5:12); it is the lot of the two witnesses,
Revelation 11:9. But if, as here, it be the just punishment of
iniquity, it is an intimation that evil pursues impenitent sinners
beyond death, greater evil than that, and that they shall rise to
everlasting shame and contempt.

4. The many triumphs that should be in his fall.

(1.) Those whom he had been a great tyrant and terror to will be glad
that they are rid of him, Isaiah 14:7-8. Now that he is gone the whole
earth is at rest and is quiet, for he was the great disturber of the
peace; now they all break forth into singing, for when the wicked
perish there is shouting (Proverbs 11:10); the fir- trees and cedars of
Lebanon now think themselves safe; there is no danger now of their
being cut down, to make way for his vast armies or to furnish him with
timber. The neighbouring princes and great men, who are compared to
fir- trees and cedars (Zechariah 11:2), may now be easy, and out of
fear of being dispossessed of their rights, for the hammer of the whole
earth is cut asunder and broken (Jeremiah 50:23), the axe that boasted
itself against him that hewed with it, Isaiah 10:15.

(2.) The congregation of the dead will bid him welcome to them,
especially those whom he had barbarously hastened thither (Isaiah
14:9-10):

"Hell from beneath is moved for thee, to meet thee at thy coming, and
to compliment thee upon thy arrival at their dark and dreadful
regions."

The chief ones of the earth, who when they were alive were kept in awe
by him and durst not come near him, but rose from their thrones, to
resign them to him, shall upbraid him with it when he comes into the
state of the dead. They shall go forth to meet him, as they used to do
when he made his public entry into cities he had become master of; with
such a parade shall he be introduced into those regions of horror, to
make his disgrace and torment the more grievous to him. They shall
scoffingly rise from their thrones and seats there, and ask him if he
will please to sit down in them, as he used to do in their thrones on
earth? The confusion that will then cover him they shall make a jest
of:

"Hast thou also become weak as we? Who would have thought it? It is
what thou thyself didst not expect it would ever come to when thou wast
in every thing too hard for us. Thou that didst rank thyself among the
immortal gods, art thou come to take thy fate among us poor mortal men?
Where is thy pomp now, and where thy mirth? How hast thou fallen from
heaven, O Lucifer! son of the morning! Isaiah 14:11-12. The king of
Babylon shone as brightly as the morning star, and fancied that
wherever he came he brought day along with him; and has such an
illustrious prince as this fallen, such a star become a clod of clay?
Did ever any man fall from such a height of honour and power into such
an abyss of shame and misery?"

This has been commonly alluded to (and it is a mere allusion) to
illustrate the fall of the angels, who were as morning stars (Job
38:7), but how have they fallen! How art thou cut down to the ground,
and levelled with it, that didst weaken the nations! God will reckon
with those that invade the rights and disturb the peace of mankind, for
he is King of nations as well as of saints. Now this reception of the
king of Babylon into the regions of the dead, which is here described,
surely is something more than a flight of fancy, and is designed to
teach these solid truths:-

[1.] That there is an invisible world, a world of spirits, to which the
souls of men remove at death and in which they exist and act in a state
of separation from the body.

[2.] That separate souls have acquaintance and converse with each
other, though we have none with them: the parable of the rich man and
Lazarus intimates this.

[3.] That death and hell will be death and hell indeed to those that
fall unsanctified from the height of this world's pomps and the fulness
of its pleasures. Son, remember, Luke 16:25.

(3.) Spectators will stand amazed at his fall. When he shall be brought
down to hell, to the sides of the pit, and be lodged there, those that
see him shall narrowly look upon him, and consider him (Isaiah
14:15-16); they shall scarcely believe their own eyes.

"Never was death so great a change to any man as it is to him. Is it
possible that a man, who a few hours ago looked so great, so pleasant,
and was so splendidly adorned and attended, should now look so ghastly,
so despicable, and lie thus naked and neglected? Is this the man that
made the earth to tremble and shook kingdoms? Who could have thought he
should ever come to this?"

Psalms 82:7.

5. Here is an inference drawn from all this (Isaiah 14:20): The seed of
evil-doers shall never be renowned. The princes of the Babylonian
monarchy were all a seed of evil-doers, oppressors of the people of
God, and therefore they had this infamy entailed upon them. They shall
not be renowned for ever (so some read it); they may look big for a
time, but all their pomp will only render their disgrace at last the
more shameful. There is no credit in a sinful way.

II. The utter ruin of the royal family is here foretold, together with
the desolation of The royal city.

1. The royal family is to be wholly extirpated. The Medes and Persians,
that are to be employed in this destroying work, are ordered, when they
have slain Belshazzar, to prepare slaughter for his children (Isaiah
14:21) and not to spare them. The little ones of Babylon must be dashed
against the stones, Psalms 137:9. These orders sound very harshly; but,

(1.) They must suffer for the iniquity of their fathers, which is often
visited upon the children, to show how much God hates sin and is
displeased at it, and to deter sinners from it, which is the end of
punishment. Nebuchadnezzar had slain Zedekiah's sons (Jeremiah 52:10),
and, for that iniquity of his, his seed are paid in the same coin.

(2.) They must be cut off now, that they may not rise up to possess the
land and do as much mischief in their day as their fathers had done in
theirs-that they may not be as vexatious to the world by building
cities for the support of their tyranny (which was Nimrod's policy,
Genesis 10:10-11) as their ancestors had been by destroying cities.
Pharaoh oppressed Israel in Egypt by setting them to build cities,
Exodus 1:11. The providence of God consults the welfare of nations more
than we are aware of by cutting off some who, if they had lived, would
have done mischief. Justly may the enemies cut off the children: For I
will rise up against them, saith the Lord of hosts (Isaiah 14:22), and
if God reveal it as his mind that he will have it done, as none can
hinder it, so none need scruple to further it. Babylon perhaps was
proud of the numbers of her royal family, but God had determined to cut
off the name and remnant of it, so that none should be left, to have
both the sons and grandsons of the king slain; and yet we are sure he
never did, nor ever will do, any wrong to any of his creatures.

2. The royal city is to be demolished and deserted, Isaiah 14:23. It
shall be a possession for solitary frightful birds, particularly the
bittern, joined with the cormorant and the owl, Isaiah 24:11. And thus
the utter destruction of the New-Testament Babylon is illustrated,
Revelation 18:2. It has become a cage of every unclean and hateful
bird. Babylon lay low, so that when it was deserted, and no care taken
to drain the land, it soon became pools of water, standing noisome
puddles, as unhealthful as they were unpleasant: and thus God will
sweep it with the besom of destruction. When a people have nothing
among them but dirt and filth, and will not be made clean with the
besom of reformation, what can they expect but to be swept off the face
of the earth with the besom of destruction?


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