I am also very annoyed by this behavior of vim (and other things) but I have good hope in the neovim project which intends to solve most of vim's shortages (www.neovim.org).
As for firefox, you can configure it so that it doesn't tabs. 2014-07-07 16:43 GMT+02:00 <berenger.mo...@neutralite.org>: > > > Le 29.06.2014 12:00, Kareem a écrit : > >> On 2014-06-27 1746, C. Thomas Stover wrote: >>> >>> The observation I'm blabbing about now is that so many applications >>> leverage in-application tiling as a UI paradigm, yet ironically >>> would actually be better of being (or at least supporting) >>> multi-window UIs so as to keep uniform tiling semantics across all >>> running applications. >> >> >> Amen. I am constantly frustrated by the fact that so many apps try to >> reimplement a window manager---each with their own esoteric key >> bindings. I really shouldn't have to use Ctrl-Tab to switch tabs in >> firefox, Ctrl-W Ctrl-J for windows in Vim, ..., when I have a >> perfectly good WM like i3 that is set up exactly the way I want it. >> >> Sometimes the solution is to change apps (from Firefox to dwb for >> example), but there isn't really an alternative to vim :( (I know >> emacs has a server mode, so you can run several emacs clients in >> different terms; I wish vim had this). >> >> Unfortunately, most people use OSes with a baked-in floating window >> manager that they can't change. For such an OS, the app *needs* its >> own internal WM because the OS WM is ineffective. So while MS Windows >> and Mac OS X have the market share, you can look forward to Mozilla >> targeting its UI to users of those OSes. > > > Well, about vim, I have the same feeling. I'm quite happy to read someone > saying that vim does too many things. > Now, I really would like a text editor... no, a code editor with the same > philosophy (ESPECIALLY for configuration btw!) as i3, but there are some > issues I guess. > For example, accessing a file from multiple instances of the editor, which > is quite common in an IDE (at least, open that file in multiple tabs) will > probably pulls problems when we spoke about syncing the changes. > The only solution I can think to solve it is the mpd way: a daemon to handle > a particular file, and clients just connect to that daemon, so the sync > problem can be managed. > But you have to think about one fact, when you speak about vim > reimplementing a wm (which is true, sadly): it was written in 1991, as a > console application. I am not sure how gnu screen or other text window > managers were at that time? > > There is another problem which make me thinking that an i3 environment is > not completely usable as an IDE: a multiple window application can't ask the > wm to place windows in a specific scheme, in the space the wm would have > allocated to it. > However, in the next version of i3, there will be layouts, so this might be > worked around. > > By the way, I have to admit that several years ago, I was not able to admit > that it was possible to program without a real IDE (and someone mentioned me > cube as a counter-example, but I never checked if it was really written > without an IDE, which would anyway not be provable), now I have even removed > any file manager from my system. > Many thanks to i3 developers, which have reduced a lot the pain of using > computers for me. Sadly, now when people take a look at my screens, they see > me like if I am some kind of E.T. ... > > I'm even thinking that it would be very nice to build a DE based on a tiling > wm, plus softwares which are twm friendly... but I do not think I master the > thing enough for now, I still have a lot to learn, and trying to create a > meta-package for that is... well, it made me think a lot about what, > exactly, would be a minimal DE, since it would be damn stupid to reproduce > the errors other DEs have, imho, done (I will never understand why DEs' > meta-packages have hard-dependencies on softwares, instead of simply > recommending them).
