It would be helpful to understand the correlation between the organizations you've been talking to and their positive/negative assessments of Sugar. Indeed, relative to any other learning project I am aware of, Sugar has a large and vibrant (and outspoken) community of developers, which we all hope will grow larger, especially in light out outreach to the Fedora, Debian, and Ubuntu communities. On the other hand, we've not yet established a strong foothold in the education communities outside of the OLPC deployments and pilots; there is some risk there, but the scale and diversity of the current Sugar deployments is impressive by most measures.
In regard to "the vision thing", the learning goals of Sugar Labs are grand and exciting, not just the technical goals, but the learning goals and the social-economic goals. Maybe they need to be better articulated or better promoted. Your efforts have been a great help in these regards. -walter _______________________________________________ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep