On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 14:19, Tomeu Vizoso <[email protected]> wrote: > On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 13:11, David Van Assche <[email protected]> wrote: >> So... to log or not to log, that is the question.... ? > > What if everybody that has ever posted in a sugar mailing list and is > against publishing logs explained here how if logs were public it > would harm her/his ability to keep contributing?
s/mailing list/IRC channel/ (others made this mistake in this thread too...) > I think we should not question their opinions, but as a community > evaluate how making logs publics may harm our current contributors. I've always considered IRC as a public medium, with many lurkers who may or may not be publishing the logs. Right now there are 75 logged on to #sugar, many of which I've never seen participate. They could be representing journalists, future employers, governments, skynet... Making future, or past, logs available publicly would not harm me. When I first got involved in OLPC, things were changing so fast that typically issues (like jhbuild failing) were raised and resolved on IRC and never hit the mailing lists, so I used to read the #olpc and #sugar scrollback on a daily basis. I learned a huge amount this way. I no longer read everything(!) but often have a quick scan to see if there was anything relevant to me. I think there are three options, going forward: #1. Publish the logs officially, hosted on a sugarlabs server and linked from the wiki, for at least #sugar if not #sugar-meeting as well. Explain that no other channels are officially logged in this way, and that people are welcome to use (for example) #sugar-meeting-offtherecord if they want to avoid their logs being published. Or #no-you-cant-have-a-pony. #2. A community member, whether a Sugar Labs member or otherwise, publishes logs at an unofficial location (including people.sugarlabs.org, or a non sugarlabs domain). If nobody else does #1 above or this #2, I'll probably do this at some point, unless #3 below kicks in. #3. Sugar Labs officially bans logging the channels #sugar and/or #sugar-meeting. OLPC never banned logging, but a couple of people asked me not to publish logs when I first spun up xobot. Recently I think it was SJ, but I can't find the reference, who said that the appropriate #olpc* channels should be published as a resource. Regards Morgan _______________________________________________ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) [email protected] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
