On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 4:07 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <to...@sugarlabs.org> wrote:
> Caroline is right in her explanation. > > Sugar will first run both telepathy-salut and telepathy-gabble. The > salut connection manager will use peer-to-peer connections for > presence and collaboration, doesn't need a server but is limited to > the local area network. > > The gabble connection manager will try to connect to the jabber server > specified in the control panel and if it succeeds, Sugar will shutdown > salut and only use gabble. If gabble fails, the salut one keeps > running. > > For 99% of users, presence and collaboration should just work, but > people setting up the environment like conferences, computer labs, > etc. should take this behavior into account. And the UI should somehow make it clearer what is going on. > > > Regards, > > Tomeu > > On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 03:01, Caroline Meeks <solutiongr...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> 4. Yesterday, Walter and Caroline noticed that a room full of people > >> using Sugar's collaboration capabilities from a remote server on a > >> conference centers network suboptimal. > > > > Actually you miss understood me. Collaboration worked fine I just didn't > > understand what was going on until the drive home. > > > > During the demo it was very odd, different people seemed to see different > > people and I was confused as to what was happening. > > > > The conference center/hotel was one of those places where to access the > > internet you had to 1. Connect to the wireless hub. 2. Open a browser. 3. > > Enter username and password. > > > > This could be done on SoaS just fine. > > > > But some people did not complete all three steps. > > > > If you connected to a wireless hub in your neighborhood but didn't go > throug > > the process with Browse to connect to the internet then you just saw the > > other people who also just connected to that wireless hub and didn't > connect > > to the internet. > > > > Given the internet was incredibly slow, this may well have been a better > > user experience for Sugar collaboration. I don't have any data about > that. > > > > If I were to do a 50 person Sugar workshop in a random hotel with bad > > internet connectivity I would bring in a hub or two. Name them different > > names. And the workshop could collaborate without ever using the hotel's > > slow internet. WIN! > > > > If I wanted users to see things on the internet I could info slice them > > before hand. > > > > And as an extra bonus no one could check their email during the workshop. > > > > Note, Im not saying we did a serious test of the collaboration.I am just > > saying that everything seemed to be fine at FOSSVT and that I am intreged > by > > the possiblities of local collaboration. > >> > >> > >> What would be the best way to set up a system like this? As I go back > >> over the list, it like like I am asking for a School Server on > >> Steroids:) > > > > No, I think you are asking for a school server the way it is envisioned > and > > where it is getting to. Now that we can have groups of people on Sugar > > comfortably we are starting to understand why we want and need the school > > server to work. > > > > My last couple of visits to schools, and talks to educators at FOSS VT > have > > convinced me that having a local server and caching inside the school is > > going provide a great deal of value to US Schools. > > > > Caroline > >> > >> > >> david > >> > >> > >> > >> > - Jonas > >> > > >> > - -- > >> > * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt > >> > * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ > >> > > >> > [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private > >> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > >> > Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) > >> > > >> > iEYEARECAAYFAknhEYYACgkQn7DbMsAkQLi6KQCeMOkIeojg2/4PYQnb7Qhy+8qO > >> > AtUAn1qAdicnYUoFIF1pl4Slg/Ol8z5M > >> > =7TlN > >> > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > >> > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org > >> > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > >> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > >> IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org > >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > > > > > > -- > > Caroline Meeks > > Solution Grove > > carol...@solutiongrove.com > > > > 617-500-3488 - Office > > 505-213-3268 - Fax > > > > _______________________________________________ > > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org > > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > > > -- Caroline Meeks Solution Grove carol...@solutiongrove.com 617-500-3488 - Office 505-213-3268 - Fax
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