On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 2:38 PM, David Van Assche<dvanass...@gmail.com> wrote: > That's a good point, and I understand the thinking behind it, as if you are > not 'changing' anything in an existing setup, people are less afraid that > things might go terribly wrong. That's the reason we have ltsp on a usb > stick... because you can stick in a server, and test it without installing > anything. Think of it as SoaS server with beaurocratic advantages included > (taking care of networking, providing Sugar images, setting up user > accounts, providng collaboration if necessary. It is by no means the XS > server, nor should it try to be that, its just the desktop environment part > with ejabberd, if needed.. of course, it only works in wired environments.
Very cool. I had not heard of LTSP on a usb stick before. It sound like another great, low impact (I am trying to think of a term like 'carbon foot print' to properly reflect the impact) way of bringing LTSP into the class room. david > kind Regards, > David (nubae) Van Assche > > On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 8:19 PM, David Farning <dfarn...@sugarlabs.org> > wrote: >> >> On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 12:24 PM, David Van Assche<dvanass...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > When it come to older pcs, it really makes sense to try and use LTSP. We >> > have created a kiwi-ltsp usb stick for openSUSE, which gives a portable >> > ltsp >> > server wherever u plug it in. In most cases it would make sense for this >> > to >> > be the most powerful computer. It is as easy as installing the sugar and >> > sugar activities meta packages on this usb image and the users on the >> > ltsp >> > network then have access to Sugar from any computer in the network, and >> > they >> > are bound to load faster than from a usb image. The advantage is u need >> > one >> > usb stick per network, as opposed to one for each terminal... that saves >> > costs, and time. Also, u dont need any of the old hardware, such as >> > cdrom >> > drives, hard drives, etc. Networking and internet is also no issue as if >> > it >> > works on the server, it has to work on each of the terminals too... >> >> SoaS is also working on a slightly different issue. >> >> I didn't understand it until Caroline explained it for about the 100th >> time yesterday:) >> >> In addition to all the technical hurdles. Sugar on a Stick is >> tackling the _bureaucratic_ issue of installing and running Sugar (or >> any software) on systems which one doesn't have admin access. >> >> In many schools it can be difficult to get the authority to install >> software or modify the configuration on their computers. SoaS >> circumvents that problem by replacing 'install a new OS' with 'insert >> the stick and turn it on.' >> >> The piece that I was _misunderstanding_ was that all of the >> technically hurdles that SoaS introduces are worth the ability to >> circumvent the bureaucratic hurdles. >> >> FWIW, at least in developed nations.... Once you get the bureaucratic >> permission to 'install' Sugar, a client-server configuration is most >> palatable to the existing generation of elementary school sysadmins. >> >> david >> >> > kind Regards, >> > David (nubae) Van Assche >> > >> > On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 5:27 PM, Frederick Grose <fgr...@gmail.com> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 10:07 AM, Caroline Meeks >> >> <carol...@solutiongrove.com> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Let me echo Caryl's question. Do we have a page with tasks for new >> >>> volunteers? >> >> >> >> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/TODO has been restored >> >> and >> >> is ready to be updated, perhaps restructured to cover this need. >> >> >> >> --Fred >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) >> >> IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org >> >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) >> > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org >> > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep >> > > > _______________________________________________ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep