On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 01:58, <fors...@ozonline.com.au> wrote: > Yes, please, all meetings listed in UTC. > > There are now proposals for Deployment and Community meetings. What are the > scope of the two meetings? Is there overlap? Are both going ahead?
There shouldn't be much overlap, I think. We still need to formally agree the mission of the community team, but I would sum it up provisionally as "Making Sugar Labs a great place to come and work together on Sugar". The deployment team is more a meeting place for those people deploying Sugar so developers and other SLs contributors don't need to go asking individually about their opinions on things. > Attending meetings is a big commitment from Australia/NZ, they are typically > 4am local time, we understand that mid Atlantic timing suits most people. > Just want to know whats worth setting an alarm clock for. I think we should see meetings as a nicety (specially important for bootstrapping and coordinating efforts) but not a prerequisite for entering into any discussions. Minutes and logs should be available after each meeting and I think it should be normal to see threads in the mailing lists quoting what was discussed during the meeting. Regards, Tomeu > Tony > > >> Please include the timezone when you decide a time so I can work out what >> time that translates to in NZ please. >> >> Thanks >> Tabitha >> >> >> >> >> On 25 May 2010 08:42, Anurag Goel <agoe...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > In light of the olpc realness summit running until June 2nd, June 3rd seems >> > appropriate and the best date for me. I'll be attending my sister's >> > graduation on the 4th then flying to India on the 5th. Does June 3rd work >> > for those interested in attending? >> > >> > Thanks, >> > Anurag >> > >> > >> > On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Anurag Goel <agoe...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> >> Shall we start throwing out dates for the first meeting? How about June >> >> 1st or 2nd? >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 4:49 AM, Tabitha Roder >> >> <tabi...@tabitha.net.nz>wrote: >> >> >> >>> I am watching this conversation with deep interest. In my attempts to >> >>> develop a community of olpc and sugar volunteers in New Zealand I have >> >>> experienced all sorts of extremes in emotion, energy drain, feelings of >> >>> success and failure, and I still wouldn't give it up because I believe in >> >>> what olpc and sugar have been striving for. >> >>> >> >>> Mostly I wish for more hours in the day; more hours for me and for the >> >>> volunteers who have been trying to help along this journey with me. It >> >>> takes >> >>> a whole community and each of the players contributes in a different >> >>> way. I >> >>> have been frustrated when I have not been able to fill a role that >> >>> requires >> >>> a certain skill (e.g. translation, programmer, educator, funding guru, >> >>> importing guru, etc) and disappointed with myself for not learning all >> >>> these >> >>> skills (obviously you can't learn everything). >> >>> >> >>> As a community of practice subgroup here in New Zealand we have tried to >> >>> nurture each other and help each other learn so we all have more >> >>> knowledge, >> >>> we have shared challenges, learned the importance of regular interaction >> >>> (we >> >>> would have failed if it were not for the regularity of same place, same >> >>> time, every week). We have had to define what we do and how will we do >> >>> it, >> >>> as well as build confidence in talking to others about what we do and >> >>> why. >> >>> This identity helps us. We have all had to work hard in our roles as >> >>> volunteers, whether that be in recruiting others or in sacrificing time >> >>> to >> >>> investigate bugs or in other ways, or in financially supporting events to >> >>> get olpc and sugar news out to others in New Zealand. >> >>> >> >>> As community lead for NZ I have had to learn how to set boundaries and >> >>> minimums (this has been hard for me, but I have had to learn it for the >> >>> good >> >>> of the community). I have had to provide direction at times and step back >> >>> and see what happens at other times. I have been surprised by some of >> >>> those >> >>> things. I have encouraged a culture of support and nurturing with the >> >>> community. I have made mistakes and wished I had done better. >> >>> >> >>> My two cents: a community leader MUST have time, understanding of the >> >>> nature of volunteers contributions in all their forms, and clarity in >> >>> communication. >> >>> >> >>> Tabitha >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On 22 May 2010 20:15, Tomeu Vizoso <to...@tomeuvizoso.net> wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 03:59, Bernie Innocenti <ber...@codewiz.org> >> >>>> wrote: >> >>>> > El Tue, 18-05-2010 a las 11:41 +0200, Tomeu Vizoso escribi�: >> >>>> > >> >>>> >> We also need to ask the Wiki team to create a new instance of the >> >>>> team >> >>>> >> template, such as this: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Wiki_Team >> >>>> > >> >>>> > Perhaps we don't need a new template. The Community Team page could >> >>>> > simply be this: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs >> >>>> > >> >>>> > The header already reads "Community Home", and the content of the >> >>>> other >> >>>> > subpages is already more or less appropriate. >> >>>> >> >>>> Sounds like a great topic for the kick-off meeting! >> >>>> >> >>>> Regards, >> >>>> >> >>>> Tomeu >> >>>> >> >>>> > -- >> >>>> > // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ >> >>>> > \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) >> >>>> IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org >> >>>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Anurag Goel >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Anurag Goel >> > >> Please include the timezone when you decide a time so I can work out what >> time that translates to in NZ please.<br><br>Thanks<br>Tabitha<br><br><br >> clear="all"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 25 May 2010 08:42, Anurag >> Goel <span dir="ltr"><<a >> href="mailto:agoe...@gmail.com";>agoe...@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br> >> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; >> border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">In light of >> the olpc realness summit running until June 2nd, June 3rd seems appropriate >> and the best date for me. I'll be attending my sister's graduation on the >> 4th then flying to India on the 5th. Does June 3rd work for those interested >> in attending?�<div> >> >> <br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Anurag�<div><div></div><div >> class="h5"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 4:17 PM, >> Anurag Goel <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:agoe...@gmail.com"; >> target="_blank">agoe...@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br> >> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; >> border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> >> Shall we start throwing out dates for the first meeting? How about June 1st >> or 2nd?�<div><div></div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, May >> 23, 2010 at 4:49 AM, Tabitha Roder <span dir="ltr"><<a >> href="mailto:tabi...@tabitha.net.nz"; >> target="_blank">tabi...@tabitha.net.nz</a>></span> wrote:<br> >> >> >> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; >> border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div>I am >> watching this conversation with deep interest. In my attempts to >> develop a community of olpc and sugar volunteers in New Zealand I have >> experienced all sorts of extremes in emotion, energy drain, feelings of >> success and failure, and I still wouldn't give it up because I believe >> in what olpc and sugar have been striving for.� <br> >> <br>Mostly I wish for more hours in the day; more hours for me and for >> the volunteers who have been trying to help along this journey with me. >> It takes a whole community and each of the players contributes in a >> different way. I have been frustrated when I have not been able to fill a >> role that requires a certain skill (e.g. translation, programmer, >> educator, funding guru, importing guru, etc) and disappointed with >> myself for not learning all these skills (obviously you can't learn >> everything). <br> >> <br>As a community of practice subgroup here in New Zealand we have >> tried to nurture each other and help each other learn so we all have >> more knowledge, we have shared challenges, learned the importance of >> regular interaction (we would have failed if it were not for the >> regularity of same place, same time, every week). We have had to define >> what we do and how will we do it, as well as build confidence in talking >> to others about what we do and why. This identity helps us. We have all >> had to work hard in our roles as volunteers, whether that be in >> recruiting others or in sacrificing time to investigate bugs or in other >> ways, or in financially supporting events to get olpc and sugar news >> out to others in New Zealand.� <br> >> <br>As community lead for NZ I have had to learn how to set boundaries >> and minimums (this has been hard for me, but I have had to learn it for >> the good of the community). I have had to provide direction at times and >> step back and see what happens at other times. I have been surprised by >> some of those things. I have encouraged a culture of support and >> nurturing with the community. I have made mistakes and wished I had done >> better.<br> >> <br>My two cents: a community leader MUST have time, understanding of >> the nature of volunteers contributions in all their forms, and clarity >> in communication. <br clear="all"><br>Tabitha <br><br><br></div><div >> class="gmail_quote"><div><div></div><div>On 22 May 2010 20:15, Tomeu Vizoso >> <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:to...@tomeuvizoso.net"; >> target="_blank">to...@tomeuvizoso.net</a>></span> wrote:<br> >> >> >> >> </div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt >> 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: >> 1ex;"><div><div></div><div><div>On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 03:59, Bernie >> Innocenti <<a href="mailto:ber...@codewiz.org"; >> target="_blank">ber...@codewiz.org</a>> wrote:<br> >> >> >> >> >> > El Tue, 18-05-2010 a las 11:41 +0200, Tomeu Vizoso escribi�:<br> >> ><br> >> >> We also need to ask the Wiki team to create a new instance of the team<br> >> >> template, such as this: <a href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Wiki_Team"; >> >> target="_blank">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Wiki_Team</a><br> >> ><br> >> > Perhaps we don't need a new template. The Community Team page could<br> >> > simply be this: <a href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs"; >> > target="_blank">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs</a><br> >> ><br> >> > The header already reads "Community Home", and the content of the other<br> >> > subpages is already more or less appropriate.<br> >> <br> >> </div>Sounds like a great topic for the kick-off meeting!<br> >> <br> >> Regards,<br> >> <br> >> Tomeu<br> >> <br> >> > --<br> >> </div></div><div><div></div><div><div><div></div><div>> � // Bernie >> Innocenti - <a href="http://codewiz.org/"; >> target="_blank">http://codewiz.org/</a><br> >> > �\X/ �Sugar Labs � � � - <a href="http://sugarlabs.org/"; >> > target="_blank">http://sugarlabs.org/</a><br> >> ><br> >> ><br></div></div><div> >> _______________________________________________<br> >> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)<br> >> <a href="mailto:IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org"; >> target="_blank">IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org</a><br> >> <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep"; >> target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep</a><br> >> </div></div></div></blockquote></div><br> >> </blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br></div></div>-- <br><font >> color="#888888">Anurag Goel<br> >> </font></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br></div></div>-- <br>Anurag >> Goel<br> >> </div> >> </blockquote></div><br> >> _______________________________________________ >> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) >> IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > > > _______________________________________________ > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > _______________________________________________ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) 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