I agree with Sameer and Marife. From an educator's point of view, having both
Sugar and Gnome available has a lot of advantages. Sugar offers a kid-friendly
environment, while at the same time offering some great Activities for older
children. The younger ones probably won't find much of interest in Gnome to
draw them away from Sugar, but for the older ones, having the option of
switching back and forth without too much difficulty will encourage them to
come back to Sugar for favorite Activities even when they have "graduated" to a
grown-up's desktop like Gnome. This could also dampen the drive for getting
"Windows" machines for older students. Who needs Windows when you can have
Gnome?
Caryl
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 10:56:22 -0400
From: marife.m...@gmail.com
To: support-g...@lists.laptop.org
Subject: Re: [support-gang] Voting Continues: Gnome vs Sugar -- The
judgement day
When I first play around with the XO 1.5 I was pleased with the switch desktop
feature, I even shared it with my eKindling team and the same way they have a
positive reaction with having sugar and gnome. I don't think that having this
feature will take us away from our educational objective. It will solely
depend on how this is implemented during the deployment. I see this feature as
a great way to leverage the XO. For example the primary level kids will not
care much about this switch as they have so many activities to explore in Sugar
and they'll depend much on what is being presented to them, as well as the
teachers who doesn't have much exposure with computers. As for the higher
level class say grades 4-6 there's nothing wrong for them to explore GNOME as
you are preparing them to have diversity in learning technology and it will be
good for them to be expose with the most commonly used desktop environment.
@marife
On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 6:51 AM, George Hunt <georgejh...@gmail.com> wrote:
Wasn't there some mention of a build/hardware release for older children on the
lists recently (I remember the color - blue/white plastic)?
If he gnome desktop was only available as a download/reflash option, students
who have gnome would already have demonstrated that they know a fix that
doesn't require outside/adult support. In the same vein, teachers who wanted
gnome, would have to obtain a usb, gain internet access, learn to reflash.
George
On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 1:40 AM, Abhishek Indoria
<indoria_abhis...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Hey,
Like some of the members, I feel that it's nothing wrong with having both Sugar
and Gnome in builds. True, that we can try to remove the command from Control
Panel, and it is true, Adam, they will figure it out. But, the catch is:they
won't figure it out soon. They will take a long time for these. Only people
with brilliant minds and hopefully those who are adults, can figure it out
sooner (Can't define sooner, though).
What I think, is that we can try to figure out a method, while having both the
desktops in XO's, by which only people with authorized access (probably
teachers) can reach to the Gnome desktop while children use Sugar. I think,
(for developers) while testing new activities for XO (in many cases, software
derived from Windows desktop and Linux), it would feel better having to test it
first on Gnome desktop in XO for benchmarking, see how it performs, add some
performance tweaks and release it to Sugar. Please correct me if I am wrong, as
I do not know a great deal about the topic.
Abhishek
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