Really? On January you wrote:
"I am following OLPC as part of a research paper on open source organizations." http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/iaep/2015-January/017152.html Followed a thread with replies from different members of the community and you finished with: "Thank you for the information. It is interesting to study how projects evolve and devolve over time." I don't know what believe now. Good luck with your research :) Gonzalo On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 2:28 PM, Dan Tenason <dan.tena...@mail.ru> wrote: > I work as a researcher for a foundation which received a grant proposal > for a laptop project. There were several issues which needed clarification. > I suppose that can be seen as trolling. > > Thanks and good luck with you project. > > > Friday, April 17, 2015 8:11 AM -03:00 from Gonzalo Odiard < > godi...@sugarlabs.org>: > > Dan, > > You was qualified as a troll because you said we should divide the 3M > number by 10 and you assume we were deceiving. > > See the Wikipedia definition of troll: > "In Internet slang, a troll (/ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is a person who sows > discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by > posting inflammatory,[1] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online > community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the > deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[2] or of > otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.[3]" > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll > > You asked your question in a thread started to discuss how improve the > content > of sugarlabs.org site. > The site was not updated on a time, then if is true a percentage of > machines can be broken now, > was not crazy correlate the number of machines sold with our software to > number of users > at the moment the site was created. > But we also know there are cases where other hardware is used with Sugar, > like here [1] > and we know the numbers in Uruguay only, are more than 300.000 machines, > then, > your comment looks completely wrong. > > At times I also think we are "too optimistic", but we need optimism > to work in a project like this. Don't assume bad intentions. > > The worst part is I have tried to start a discussion abut how to improve > the web site, > and instead of that we discuss about one line in the old web site, > and do not have any proposal for improvement. And that is the effect of > trolling, > stop others and not add anything positive to the conversation. > > Everybody here can contribute in a different way: programming, testing, > go to remote places and put solar panels in schools, write docs. > But not everybody _want_ contribute. > > Gonzalo > > [1] http://www.fenix951.com.ar/nuevo_2013/noticia.php?id=4552 > > > On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 2:58 PM, Dan Tenason <dan.tena...@mail.ru > <https://e.mail.ru/compose/?mailto=mailto%3adan.tena...@mail.ru>> wrote: > > A few weeks ago I raised the question about how phrase three million daily > users was calculated. The general line of thought in a thread on > sugar-devel was we don't know but we think it is an optimistic figure based > on the total number of laptops OLPC produced. Further analysis is hard and > we can't be bothered to do it. Furthermore, anyone who questions the number > is a troll. > > It would seem natural that an education project which promotes critical > thinking would substantiate its own claims. If any organization tries to > bury the numbers, one should ask why they are doing so. > > -- > Dan Tenason > > _______________________________________________ > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org > <https://e.mail.ru/compose/?mailto=mailto%3ai...@lists.sugarlabs.org> > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > > > > > -- > Gonzalo Odiard > > SugarLabs - Software for children learning > _______________________________________________ > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org > <https://e.mail.ru/compose?To=IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org> > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > > > -- Gonzalo Odiard SugarLabs - Software for children learning
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