Friday, June 5, 2015 10:35 PM -06:00 from Caryl Bigenho <cbige...@hotmail.com>: >Don't read into my comments things that aren't there. I assumed, as I am >certain many others have, that you were talking about OLPC and the use of the >XO machines. Read through your posts and I think you will see why this is the >case. > >As for Sugar, there are many reasons why it is as good as, or even better >than, any other learning platforms for children. I am a retired teacher with >30+ years experience so I know where-of I speak. The problem with Sugar has >been that, until very recently, it was only practical on the XO laptops and >the numbers you have seen refer mostly to that use. Sugar-on-a-Stick was an >option as was running it in a virtual machine, but there were many problems, >mostly with the virtual machines not with Sugar. > >A new initiative has been undertaken by OLPC France called "Sugarizer" that >aims to bring Sugar to "any device." It is in its infancy but shows great >promise of bringing some of the creative, cooperative, project based, learning >experiences Sugar has to offer. > >There are many ways one can help with the development of Sugarizer. If you are >truly interested in using technology to help bring quality learning >experiences to children everywhere, I suggest that you see if you can find >yourself a niche where you can help expand and perfect Sugarizer. You can get >more information here: http://sugarizer.org To use your expression. Sugar >!= technology to bring quality learning experiences to children everywhere. >Just as criticism is only one component of critical thinking, Sugar is just >one example of an educational technology. At this point I feel my time and >energy is better spent leveling the playing field among competing projects. BTW, please notice the second sentence of http://sugarizer.org . "used every day by nearly 3 million children around the world." The marketing quote from the sugarlabs site is repeated. Pretty soon it is accepted as simple fact rather then a rough assumption of all XO sales + all Sugar downloads. Dan. > >Caryl > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >From: dan.tena...@mail.ru >To: cbige...@hotmail.com >CC: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org >Subject: Re[2]: [IAEP] sugar numbers >Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2015 06:04:29 +0300 > > > > >Wednesday, June 3, 2015 5:24 PM -06:00 from Caryl Bigenho ><cbige...@hotmail.com>: >>Criticism != Critical Thinking. This whole discussion is pointless! You are >>arguing about the current use of laptops that are as much as 8 years old. >>Yes, many of them, maybe even most of them, are still usable and in use. What >>other platform can say that? Tell me and I'll buy stock in the company. >If I understand correctly, you are saying that Sugar is above reproach because >so many people benefit because the XO's last so long and so many are still in >use. Ironically, the issue being challenged is how Sugar Labs calculates and >communicates how many people use Sugar. > >Dan > >_______________________________________________ >IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) >IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org >http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
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