+1 to Sam comments. I think we should ask before implement a digital tool: Why X should be done with a computer? Is better than do it with real paper, pencils, scissors, etc? Enable anything new? Scale better? Can reach more users?
Just my two cent Gonzalo On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 3:24 AM, Sam P. <sam@sam.today> wrote: > Hi Samson, > > They are interesting in a way, and they seem to have a nice presentation > editor. Maybe that could be something to hack with the new collab text > editor apis? > > But I disagree with their approach many ways. I was chatting with some > people about this and struggled to see pedagogical use of many of their > tools: > > * "Quickfire" quiz thing - is talking to students hard? Is it hard to get > them to pass you an answer on paper? Well, spend a lot of time setting up > some computer thing instead! > * "Discuss" - too hard to get kids to put up hands to discuss something? > Too hard to get them into groups? Too hard to "pair share pair" or > whatever strategy? Have them talk at each other over the internet, after > wasting time fussing with tech. > * "Team Up" - too hard to get them into groups irl? Too hard to let them > talk so they can work together? Too hard to use a normal presentation app > to make slides? Use this thing! > > Overall, I think this represents an interesting trend in edu tech - making > normal classroom things digital. This is a trend that I view as useless > from my experiences. These are not useful tools for teachers to teach > with, it doesn't let the kids make things or research things. The > currently successful devices in edu tech seem to be chromebooks - which > don't add a single thing that is educational. Instead they have > collaboration for word processing, slides, etc. Real tools for making real > stuff. > > Spiral does make me thing about what our approach should be though (hint: > not like spiral) - making tools for kids to work together and make stuff. > Tools that teachers can use in their lesson plans. > > Thanks, > Sam > > On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 10:08 PM, samson goddy <samsongo...@hotmail.com> > wrote: > >> Someone tweeted @sugar_labs via twitter, asking if the sugarlabs might be >> interested in this application. But it seems like she does not know that >> Sugar Labs has an OS. But the interesting thing is the approach about the >> application. It will be really good to have something like this as an >> activity in Sugar OS so it might make work for teachers in school easier. >> Here is the link to the site http://spiral.ac/r/miB >> >> Samson >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sugar-devel mailing list >> sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > -- Gonzalo Odiard
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