Hi, Dave

This discussion of procedures misses the point. Board meetings are not for the purpose of voting yea/nea on motions. A majority of the Board members commented on these motions before the meeting. These comments were consistent with the comments made at the meeting with a couple of exceptions.

We need to come to a consensus on the motions before they are presented to the Board. With the exception of motions to authorize payments, I don't see that any of these motions have an urgency that justifies their being passed immediately nor any harm to Sugar Labs resulting from their not being passed on June 3.

I appreciate the work and enthusiasm that you have brought to the Vision motion. However, I don't understand your apparent insensitivity to the obvious fact that these issues are very important to the community and deserve the time needed to obtain community understanding and commitment.

You have provided a valuable framework in which to have these discussions and that is a major contribution. I hope that when the community discussion has reached consensus on the wording of a vision statement that you will be happy with the result and proud of your contribution to it.

Tony

On 06/04/2016 05:46 AM, iaep-requ...@lists.sugarlabs.org wrote:
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Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 21:42:41 -0600
From: Dave Crossland<d...@lab6.com>
To: Walter Bender<walter.ben...@gmail.com>
Cc: iaep<iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org>, SLOBs<sl...@lists.sugarlabs.org>
Subject: Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motion: to vote on each motion proposed by
        a       member
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On 3 June 2016 at 17:10, Walter Bender<walter.ben...@gmail.com>  wrote:

>
>
>On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 7:06 PM, Dave Crossland<d...@lab6.com>  wrote:
>
>>
>>On 3 June 2016 at 17:04, Walter Bender<walter.ben...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 6:59 PM, Dave Crossland<d...@lab6.com>  wrote:
>>>
>>>>Motion: to vote on each motion proposed by a member, dropping the
>>>>current practice of requiring a seconding before moving to a vote.
>>>>
>>>
>>>As frustrating as I found today's meeting, I think it unwise to stifle
>>>discussion of motions before a vote. There must be some way to get board
>>>members to engage between meetings.
>>>
>>
>>We have a wonderful way to discuss between meetings, and even vote on
>>motions: Email.
>>
>
>But by-and-large the SLOB members have not been participating in those
>discussions :P
>
I hope that making the monthly/weekly meeting focused procedurally on
decision-making instead of discussions will smoke them out.

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