On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 11:54 PM, Laura Vargas <la...@somosazucar.org> wrote:
> > > 2016-06-13 19:05 GMT+08:00 Walter Bender <walter.ben...@gmail.com>: > >> I have to say I with Samuel Greenfeld on this one. There are lots of >> potential issues with these machines (depending upon how they have been >> stored and maintained.) They could well have dead batteries (both the main >> battery and the battery for the RTC). They most certainly will need an >> investment in time by someone getting them unlocked and reflashed as well. >> That said, if we go that route, I have two bulk battery charging racks we >> could add to the mix. >> >> Google just donated 8000 chromebooks to the X-Prize. Maybe we could try >> to go that route? >> >> > Reading at http://learning.xprize.org/about/guidelines I found that > registration to participate in the competition is now closed. Is this the > same you are suggesting? > I was not suggesting we apply for the X-Prize. (As I said in an earlier thread, I didn't think it was a good match for Sugar Labs either as an organization or in terms of pedagogy.) I referred to the X-Prize donation only in order to substantiate the idea of soliciting a small donation of hardware from Google as a reference platform. regards. -walter > > -walter >> >> On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 6:20 AM, Samuel Greenfeld <sam...@greenfeld.org> >> wrote: >> >>> FOB (Freight on Board) means that the responsibility for customs fees, >>> shipping charges, etc. belongs to the buyer. XOs directly purchased from >>> OLPC historically had similar terms. >>> >>> The shipping calculator on that listing can give you a rough idea of >>> what it would cost to get to you in the US (around $500-$1000 uninsured). >>> >>> Personally I think it is a waste of funds and time given that someone >>> will have to go through all 172 XOs to verify their functionality, >>> determine which 10-year-old batteries still can hold a charge, make >>> repairs, etc. It would primarily be of interest to projects which already >>> get donated XO-1s and could salvage parts of necessary, but not necessarily >>> at the $4k price point. >>> >>> Reselling the laptops as usable also would incur a bit of liability that >>> the recycler (selling as-is) is not willing to take. About the only good >>> thing is that this recycler does not appear to be shipping from >>> Massachusetts, where one recycler was selling pre-release parts even after >>> being told they were not usable by anyone else. >>> >>> >>> While we seem to have discovered Sugar Labs has money this year, Sugar >>> Labs is not a bank for everyone's little pet project. *Before* we spend >>> any significant portion of funds beyond the significant amount already >>> allocated for stipends & translation, I would like to see proof that Sugar >>> Labs can fund raise most of the money already spent back. >>> >>> The only valid way I could see doing this would be to ask the recycler >>> if they would be willing to just donate the laptops to the SFC (or another >>> 501(c)3 registered XO-using nonprofit) and take the profit as a tax >>> writeoff. But *before* this gets done, it really needs to be discussed by >>> Sugar Labs' board {NOT people begging the recycler to do so via individual >>> actions - if anything that would encourage them to raise their expected >>> price}. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 6:08 AM, Sean DALY <sdaly...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> they mean loading dock i.e. where you send the truck >>>> Sean >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 10:24 AM, Sam Parkinson < >>>> sam.parkins...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dave, I don't frequent EBay listings, but it says: >>>>> >>>>> > Customer is responsible for arrangement of freight trucking pickup >>>>> and insurance from our dock >>>>> >>>>> Is that referring to the charging docks or the palette of laptops? >>>>> >>>>> Obviously this is a small detail that doesn't effect the discussion, >>>>> but it would probably change the figures a bit. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Sam >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 3:07 PM, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi >>>>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Qty-172-OLPC-One-Laptop-Per-Child-XO-1-w-7-5-TFT-256MB-RAM-1024KB-ROM-/262478690514 >>>>> I propose that Sugar Labs buy these, image them with the 0.110 release, >>>>> and >>>>> sale them to raise funds; individual units regularly clear $100 each, so >>>>> this will raise around $13,000 >>>>> -- >>>>> Cheers Dave _______________________________________________ IAEP -- >>>>> It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) >>>>> IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) >>>>> IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org >>>>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) >>>> IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org >>>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) >>> IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org >>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Walter Bender >> Sugar Labs >> http://www.sugarlabs.org >> <http://www.sugarlabs.org> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) >> IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep >> > > > > -- > Laura V. > I&D SomosAZUCAR.Org > > Identi.ca/Skype acaire > IRC kaametza > > Happy Learning! > > -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org <http://www.sugarlabs.org>
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