Hi, Walter

Of course, we need qualified volunteers to undertake the task. So far, our release managers have provided support for osbuild but have not undertaken to provide a release intended for adoption by a general user or by a institutional deployment. The Sugar Labs web site offers releases for many platforms, but the email discussion shows that none of these can really be considered a stable, tested release.

It appears that the Debian repository, if updated for 0.110 and then passing the Debian test procedures should be the proper basis for a Raspbian and Ubuntu release.

I would hope our community has some one with the skills and determination to take this on.

Tony

On 12/17/2016 09:34 PM, Walter Bender wrote:
Tony,

I cannot separate the desire to have an easy install on Debian from the work needed to achieve that goal. Hence my asking that we expand this discussion to include those who might be able to help us do that work.

-walter

On Sat, Dec 17, 2016 at 2:06 PM, Tony Anderson <tony_ander...@usa.net <mailto:tony_ander...@usa.net>> wrote:

    Hi, Walter

    We again seem to have a problem in communication. My concern is
    not to solve a specific problem. My concern is to leverage this
    Debian process to help
    Sugar Labs offer an effective release of Sugar that can become a
    viable alternative for educators to implement. This can not
    require specific technical knowledge such as the sugar developers
    have, but the ability to install Sugar on an ordinary laptop. This
    is handled by Libre Office. I can install Libre Office on an Xo
    with the following script:

    echo 'install libreoffice'
    cd libreoffice
    sudo rpm -Uvh *.rpm
    cd $here

    where libreoffice is a directory containing the Libre Office rpms.
    This requires no access to the internet nor any special technical
    skills. The
    overall script is

    cd /run/media/olpc/xo175
    bash xo-custom

    where xo175 is the label of the USB drive.

    Why can't we have something as simple for Sugar? Debian seems to
    be spending some effort to package Sugar in their repository. Why
    can't we expend
    a little effort so that Sugar can be installed by dpkg -i sugar?

    I addressed this to SLOBS because I think this is a Sugar Labs
    issue, not a technical one.

    Tony


    On 12/17/2016 04:50 PM, Walter Bender wrote:
    None of this seems like it would be difficult to resolve. We need
    to find someone who is in the debian world to jump in. Can you
    cross post to sugar-devel?

    thx

    On Sat, Dec 17, 2016 at 1:17 AM, Tony Anderson
    <tony_ander...@usa.net <mailto:tony_ander...@usa.net>> wrote:

        I continue to get messages like this - I suspect because I
        signed up for pkg-sugar-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org
        <mailto:pkg-sugar-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org>. However,
        there doesn't appear to be anyone from the Sugar community
        involved.

        Format: 1.8
        Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2016 17:10:30 +0100
        Source: sugar-imageviewer-activity
        Binary: sugar-imageviewer-activity
        Architecture: source all
        Version: 62-3
        Distribution: unstable
        Urgency: medium
        Maintainer: Debian Sugar
        Team<pkg-sugar-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org
        <mailto:pkg-sugar-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org>>
        Changed-By: Jonas Smedegaard<d...@jones.dk <mailto:d...@jones.dk>>
        Description:
         sugar-imageviewer-activity - Sugar Learning Platform - image
        viewing activity
        Changes:
         sugar-imageviewer-activity (62-3) unstable; urgency=medium
         .
           * Update copyright info:
             + Update URLs to reflect new Github home.
             + Extend coverage for Debian packaging.
           * Declare compliance with Debian Policy 3.9.8.
           * Fix broken path in desktop file.
           * Have git-buildpackage filter any .git* file.
           * Modernize CDBS use:
             + Generalize resolving build-dependency on python.
             + Build-depend on licensecheck (not devscripts).

        Is there anyone who cares? Since Sugar Labs does not make a
        Debian release of Sugar, perhaps we should tell Debian to
        drop Sugar and forget about it.
        Naturally, we would be turning our back on the opportunity to
        create a Sugar release for Debian which would install on
        Ubuntu and Raspbian and. potentially, Windows 10.
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