Consider an potential adopter who wants to try out Sugar. As Caryl knows
from Scale, an adopter wants to know:
1 - What are the capabilities of Sugar, what are its strengths, who is
using it, are there success stories, testimonials from users?
2 - How is it supported? If I were to deploy it and needed help, is it
available?
3 - How can I install it on my PC to try it out?
Going to the Sugarlabs website, the first screen features: Activities,
Wiki, Social Help. The next statement describes Sugar as a collection of
tools.
Being persistent, if you scroll down several screens, you get to a
block: Get Sugar featuring SOAS and Gnu/Linux.
For Sugar on a Stick, I am directed to another page. It starts out well
- how to make a stick with Windows (but 7). The instructions say to
download 650MB and burn a CD. At this point the instructions become
incoherent. They say to mount a 2GB or more stick and then boot from the
CD and start running Sugar from it using the Terminal activity and su.
Then I am told that a change in Fedora 24 (the adopter is saying 'what's
that?') requires the use of the command:
|sudo dnf install livecd-tools
|
No potential adopter would persist even to this point.
The other panel claims Sugar is available on most Gnu/Linux
distributions. The accompanying instructions from the links on this
panel are even more intimidating and provide evidence of lack of support
for Sugar.
In fact, I believe that Ubuntu 16.04 enables yum install of Sugar 0.110.
This should be featured.
Like Pixel, I would like to see a current Sugar image available for
download which can be transfered to a usb stick by a single dd command.
This stick would operate as SOAS but also support installation in an
available block of hard drive on any amd_64 machine. A second image
ideally would be installable as a Window application with a supported
Windows installer (like wubi did). Finally, there should be a Debian
image which can be copied to an SD card and booted by a Raspberry Pi 3
(and possibly 2).
Finally, our hypothetical adopter should find this 'get Sugar'
information on the main screen, not down six screens.
Tony
On 02/15/2017 11:20 PM, iaep-requ...@lists.sugarlabs.org wrote:
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Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 21:15:05 +0000
From: Caryl Bigenho<cbige...@hotmail.com>
To: Bert Freudenberg<b...@freudenbergs.de>
Cc: IAEP SugarLabs<iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org>
Subject: Re: [IAEP] pixel
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+1 for Tony's comment!
Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 15, 2017, at 12:51 PM, Bert Freudenberg
<b...@freudenbergs.de<mailto:b...@freudenbergs.de>> wrote:
On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 6:35 AM, Tony Anderson
<tony_ander...@usa.net<mailto:tony_ander...@usa.net>> wrote:
This is what I hoped Sugarlabs would do:
https://opensource.com/article/17/1/try-raspberry-pis-pixel-os-your-pc
Tony
Isn't that exactly what SoaS does?
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Installation
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