I am going to make contact with the consulate of France in Nigeria. I have been in touch with them since thursday. I am also going to call them on monday for further information.
Technically we need to sort out this problem with SLOBS and SFC about the money in question. Secondly takina a train in Bordeaux is tricky because my last discussion i had with the Team in Bordeaux. They told me that i will be flying from Port Harcourt to Bordeaux, but i am not sure yet. But the flight needed might be the same with Ibiam's, i will also contact the scratch team. Samson G On May 21, 2017 7:55 AM, "Samson Goddy" <samsongo...@gmail.com> wrote: Thank you Tony, you just explained everything. But one problem Adam and Laura outlined that SFC have some rules, i don't know if someone can communicate with them. Samson On May 21, 2017 5:13 AM, "Tony Anderson" <tony_ander...@usa.net> wrote: > The only advice is to get busy with the visa application. It takes a > minimum of 15 days to process. The step by step is outlined on those > websites. The main > point it that they must spend a day in Lagos up front filling out the visa > application. In my experience this is like renewing a driver's license - > you don't make an appointment, you just go there and follow the > instructions. They can find out before they go to Lagos what they need to > bring: passport, birth certificate, extra passport photos and so on. They > will then to return to Lagos to get the completed visa (normally the > passport is kept by the consulate during the 15 days). > > Personally, since we seem to be willing to fund individuals for past > contributions to Sugar Labs, I think the contributions of Samson and Ibiam > are indisputable. > It should be funded on that basis alone. > > Tony > > On 05/21/2017 11:14 AM, Caryl Bigenho wrote: > > Hi Tony, > > > These two guys seem to have their acts together on this one but are having > difficulty getting it approved because people feel they may not be able to > get all their "ducks in a row" in time to make it happen. If there is any > help you can give them... advice, people to talk to to get it ready etc. it > would be really great. They still lack one SLOB vote for approval. Too bad > Samson can't vote for his own proposal 😏 > > > Caryl > ------------------------------ > *From:* IAEP <iaep-boun...@lists.sugarlabs.org> > <iaep-boun...@lists.sugarlabs.org> on behalf of Tony Anderson > <tony_ander...@usa.net> <tony_ander...@usa.net> > *Sent:* Saturday, May 20, 2017 5:49:05 PM > *To:* iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org > *Subject:* Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] email motion re Scratch Conference > (Adam Holt) > > Samson and Ibiam will need a Shengen visa > (https://buzznigeria.com/schengen-visa/). > > This is handled by the Consulate of France in Nigeria in Lagos > (http://www.vfsglobal.com/France/Nigeria/) > > I would recommend they add a couple of days to the trip to visit Paris. > They could fly to Paris de Gaulle, take the train to Bordeaux (leaves > from the terminal) and then return by train from Bordeaux. OLPC France > plans to have some folks there who can help with the arrangements. I > expect to be there as well. > > Tony > > > On 05/21/2017 01:49 AM, iaep-requ...@lists.sugarlabs.org wrote: > > Send IAEP mailing list submissions to > > iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > iaep-requ...@lists.sugarlabs.org > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > iaep-ow...@lists.sugarlabs.org > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of IAEP digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Re: [SLOBS] [SLOB] email motion re Scratch Conference (Adam Holt) > > 2. Re: [SLOBS] [SLOB] email motion re Scratch Conference > > (Samson Goddy) > > 3. Re: [SLOBS] [SLOB] email motion re Scratch Conference > > (Chihurumnaya Ibiam) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Sat, 20 May 2017 13:29:47 -0400 > > From: Adam Holt <h...@laptop.org> <h...@laptop.org> > > To: iaep <iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org> <iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org>, SLOBs > <sl...@lists.sugarlabs.org> <sl...@lists.sugarlabs.org> > > Subject: Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] email motion re Scratch Conference > > Message-ID: > > <CAHaBuGdL4TFRWCnib=quzh7zuea_e6qqchzla+bp0bw17he...@mail.gm > ail.com> > <CAHaBuGdL4TFRWCnib=quzh7zuea_e6qqchzla+bp0bw17he...@mail.gmail.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > > On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 12:55 PM, Samson Goddy <samsongo...@gmail.com> > <samsongo...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > >> On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 5:29 PM, Adam Holt <h...@laptop.org> > <h...@laptop.org> wrote: > >> > >>> As such, a more financially judicious gamble might involve a carefully > >>> thought-out proposal for one single individual to attend. Likely an > >>> individual who has the strongest track record of getting EU visas > >>> approved? Or perhaps an individual who has established contacts / > >>> diplomatic connections within the French government, a high-level > contact > >>> who cares about children and free software etc, to guarantee the visa > will > >>> be approved? > >>> > >> More explanation please, i didn't really get the point. > >> > > You need to establish evidence that the visa will be approved. A single > > applicant (rather than two) confirmed by a high-level contact in the > French > > government might be the best way. > > > > 3) Laura Vargas is correct SFC cannot generally provide funds in advance, > >>> so the mechanics of this entire proposal remain unclear. Not > reassuring > >>> when flight prices are already rising less than 2 months before the > event. > >>> But possibly a (presumed) attendee can arrange a personal loan from a > >>> friend, to cover all funds in advance, to be reimbursed by SFC later if > >>> nothing goes wrong with the visa? > >>> > >> I will reach out to the scratch team in bordeaux then discuss about it. > >> > > Speak to them about the above legal question too -- it is possible they > > have high-level contacts within the French govt, to provide the highest > > level of assurance that a particular visa will be approved. > > > > 4) If an improved proposal is indeed appropriate at this late stage, what > >>> community deliverables/artifacts will the attendee(s) publish and/or > >>> contribute in the end, preferably on the public record for all to > share? > >>> > >> I don't understand, could you explain more. > >> > > How specifically will attendee(s) document their contributions, in a more > > permanent/global way -- whether via published photos, videos, ASLO, > > http://scratch.mit.edu and/or a formal report? > > > > (Most grant proposals of almost any kind require the applicant to specify > > what kinds of community documentation will result from the trip...not > just > > social media, but that could be one part of it!) > > > > > >> ASIDE: What is the exact/estimated total that Scratch itself has offered > >>> to contribute? > >>> > >> They will pay my(Samson) flight (PHC > Lagos > Paris > Bordeaux), hotel, > >> foods and visa. > >> > > Can you provide a rough estimate for this in USD? > > -------------- next part -------------- > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > URL: <http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/iaep/attachments/2017052 > 0/9b68b540/attachment-0001.html> > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Sat, 20 May 2017 18:33:51 +0100 > > From: Samson Goddy <samsongo...@sugarlabs.org> > <samsongo...@sugarlabs.org> > > To: Adam Holt <h...@laptop.org> <h...@laptop.org> > > Cc: iaep <iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org> <iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org>, SLOBs > <sl...@lists.sugarlabs.org> <sl...@lists.sugarlabs.org> > > Subject: Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] email motion re Scratch Conference > > Message-ID: > > <CAFN_488oV-9MLaMHQyJbxCk3NXvqVauRqujyvQ6pg9W7px_Jkw@mail. > gmail.com> > <cafn_488ov-9mlamhqyjbxck3nxvqvaurqujyvq6pg9w7px_...@mail.gmail.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > > On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 6:29 PM, Adam Holt <h...@laptop.org> > <h...@laptop.org> wrote: > > > >> On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 12:55 PM, Samson Goddy <samsongo...@gmail.com> > <samsongo...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 5:29 PM, Adam Holt <h...@laptop.org> > <h...@laptop.org> wrote: > >>> > >>>> As such, a more financially judicious gamble might involve a carefully > >>>> thought-out proposal for one single individual to attend. Likely an > >>>> individual who has the strongest track record of getting EU visas > >>>> approved? Or perhaps an individual who has established contacts / > >>>> diplomatic connections within the French government, a high-level > contact > >>>> who cares about children and free software etc, to guarantee the visa > will > >>>> be approved? > >>>> > >>> More explanation please, i didn't really get the point. > >>> > >> You need to establish evidence that the visa will be approved. A single > >> applicant (rather than two) confirmed by a high-level contact in the > French > >> government might be the best way. > >> > >> 3) Laura Vargas is correct SFC cannot generally provide funds in > advance, > >>>> so the mechanics of this entire proposal remain unclear. Not > reassuring > >>>> when flight prices are already rising less than 2 months before the > event. > >>>> But possibly a (presumed) attendee can arrange a personal loan from a > >>>> friend, to cover all funds in advance, to be reimbursed by SFC later > if > >>>> nothing goes wrong with the visa? > >>>> > >>> I will reach out to the scratch team in bordeaux then discuss about it. > >>> > >> Speak to them about the above legal question too -- it is possible they > >> have high-level contacts within the French govt, to provide the highest > >> level of assurance that a particular visa will be approved. > >> > > Sure i am going to do that. > > > >> 4) If an improved proposal is indeed appropriate at this late stage, > what > >>>> community deliverables/artifacts will the attendee(s) publish and/or > >>>> contribute in the end, preferably on the public record for all to > share? > >>>> > >>> I don't understand, could you explain more. > >>> > >> How specifically will attendee(s) document their contributions, in a > more > >> permanent/global way -- whether via published photos, videos, ASLO, > >> http://scratch.mit.edu and/or a formal report? > >> > >> (Most grant proposals of almost any kind require the applicant to > specify > >> what kinds of community documentation will result from the trip...not > just > >> social media, but that could be one part of it!) > >> > > we will document on our wiki page/ > > > >> > >>> ASIDE: What is the exact/estimated total that Scratch itself has > offered > >>>> to contribute? > >>>> > >>> They will pay my(Samson) flight (PHC > Lagos > Paris > Bordeaux), > hotel, > >>> foods and visa. > >>> > >> Can you provide a rough estimate for this in USD? > >> > >> I will have to contact the team about that too. > > You will hear from me soon. > > > >> _______________________________________________ > >> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > >> IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org > >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > >> > > -------------- next part -------------- > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > URL: <http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/iaep/attachments/2017052 > 0/2fffa40c/attachment-0001.html> > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 3 > > Date: Sat, 20 May 2017 18:49:10 +0100 > > From: Chihurumnaya Ibiam <ibiamchihurumn...@gmail.com> > <ibiamchihurumn...@gmail.com> > > To: Adam Holt <h...@laptop.org> <h...@laptop.org> > > Cc: iaep <iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org> <iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org>, SLOBs > <sl...@lists.sugarlabs.org> <sl...@lists.sugarlabs.org> > > Subject: Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] email motion re Scratch Conference > > Message-ID: > > <caayqsfoo5speyq4hj6d8se6shueamkc-oogwgwduxptbrr7...@mail.gm > ail.com> > <caayqsfoo5speyq4hj6d8se6shueamkc-oogwgwduxptbrr7...@mail.gmail.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > >> > >> > >> You need to establish evidence that the visa will be approved. A single > >> applicant (rather than two) confirmed by a high-level contact in the > French > >> government might be the best way. > >> > > We'll talk with the organizer and see if he has any contact with the > French > > government, aside that we know there is no guarantee that it will be > > granted neither is there any that it'll not be granted. > > > > > >> Speak to them about the above legal question too -- it is possible they > >> have high-level contacts within the French govt, to provide the highest > >> level of assurance that a particular visa will be approved. > >> > > We'll talk with the organizer and see if he has any contact with the > French > > government. > > > > > >> How specifically will attendee(s) document their contributions, in a > more > >> permanent/global way -- whether via published photos, videos, ASLO, > >> http://scratch.mit.edu and/or a formal report? > >> > >> (Most grant proposals of almost any kind require the applicant to > specify > >> what kinds of community documentation will result from the trip...not > just > >> social media, but that could be one part of it!) > >> > > This was in an email i received from the Scratch2017bdx committee > > > > *HAL* > > If your proposal has an accompanying paper or poster that you wish to add > > to the academic archives, our partner INRIA can publish it in a > > Scratch2017BDX section at HAL. HAL is an open archive where authors can > > deposit scholarly documents from all academic fields. For this, please > fill > > out the form at scratch2017bdx.org/en/hal > > > > If that helps. > > > > > >> Can you provide a rough estimate for this in USD? > >> > > They want to share the responsibility with Sugar Labs, they already have > a > > budget for the event but every money is virtual at the moment, they are > > working it out. So they'd love to pay half of the bill that's an > estimated > > 1500euros($1681.12), but working the figures out the bill goes past that. > > > > > >> _______________________________________________ > >> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > >> IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org > >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > >> > > > > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source > =link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=icon> > > Virus-free. > > www.avast.com > > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source > =link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=link> > > <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > > -------------- next part -------------- > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > URL: <http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/iaep/attachments/2017052 > 0/10446da2/attachment.html> > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Subject: Digest Footer > > > > _______________________________________________ > > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org > > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > End of IAEP Digest, Vol 110, Issue 38 > > ************************************* > > _______________________________________________ > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > > > > _______________________________________________ > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep >
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