BTW, kok kelihatan 'esmosi' banget sih tanggapannya.......he he he he kali kesel dia yah, kok masih ada (dan banyak...!) yang percaya teori biogenic...
salam, ----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 02:59 Subject: [iagi-net-l] IAGI-NET Sudah Go International (was:The Origin of Petroleum) > > > > > Beberapa bulan yang lalu, saya surprise dan sedikit terkejut, karena > posting saya di IAGI-net ada yang membaca di Qatar, oleh orang bukan > Indonesia, > dan memberi komentar tentang posting saya. > Hari Jum'at kemarin lebih terkejut lagi, kalau ternyata posting saya ada > yang membaca di RUSSIA !!! > Memang hebat mailing list kita ini. Tapi ini tentu saja yang diluar 'junk > mails' yang masuk ke mailing list ini, seperti yang nawarin bussiness yang > tidak karuan. > > Anyway, silahkan simak komentar dari salah satu penganut faham abiogenic > theory dari Russia. > > Salam, > Teguh P. > > ----- Forwarded by Teguh Prasetyo/MAL/MOC on 06/28/2004 08:35 AM ----- > > "J. F. Kenney" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > cc: > Subject: [iagi-net-l] The Origin of Petroleum > 06/25/2004 11:18 > AM > Please respond to > JFK > > > > > > > > Dear Sir: > > I have just had brought to my attention your page on a web site on > which is discussed some notional "debate" as to whether natural petroleum > might somehow have obtained (miraculously) from biological detritus in the > thermodynamic regimes of temperatures and pressures found in the > near-surface crust of the Earth. Please understand that competent > physicists, chemists, chemical engineers, and all men (even) minimally > cognizant of the constraints of fundamental physical laws, particularly > the laws of chemical thermodynamics, have rejected the notion that natural > petroleum might be spontaneously generating in such regimes. > For a very brief review of these facts, I refer you to the article in > the European journal Energia, published in 2001: J. F. Kenney, I. K. > Karpov, A. Y. F. Shnyukov, V. A. Krayushkin, T. I. Tchebanenko and V. P. > Klochko, "The constraints of thermodynamics upon the evolution of > hydrocarbons: The prohibition of hydrocarbon genesis at low pressures," > Energia, 2001, 22, 18-23. > > In your web posting, you have cited some of the traditional nonsense > which used to be claimed to constitute various sorts of "evidence" for a > biological connection of natural petroleum. Specifically, you have > recited (parrot-like) the silliness about the observations of optical > activity in natural petroleum and the small odd-even asymmetry of linear > molecules. Both of these spurious claims (as well as all others offerred > as such "evidence") have been discredited more than thirty years ago. > > 1.) The observations of optical activity in natural petroleum > constitute no evidence of any biological connection whatever. To begin, > the optical activity observed in natural petroleum lacks, always, the > homochiral distribution of enantiomers which characterize such molecules > that result from biological processes. The distribution of > optically-active enantiomers in natural petroleum is always scalemic. > Furthermore, such optical activity has been observed in the > clearly abiotic petroleum fluids extracted from the interiors of > carbonaceous meteorites. Please understand that the ordinary, - and > emphatically, non-biological, - effects of pressure and density create the > type enantiomeric distributions which give rise to the optical activity > observed in natural petroleum. > When properly understood, the observations of optical activity in > natural petroleum are powerful evidence for the high-pressure (i.e., deep) > origin of petroleum. For further reading on this subject (which you ought > to have done before writing as you have done on the web), you are referred > to the article in Physical Chemistry - Chemical Physics published in > 2000: J. F. Kenney and U. K. Deiters, "The evolution of multicomponent > systems at high pressures: IV. The genesis of optical activity in > high-density, abiotic fluids," Phys. Chem. Chem. Phys., 2000, 2, > 3163-3174. > > 2.) The small odd-even asymmetry in linear molecules constitutes no > evidence of a biological connection for natural petroleum. Such is a > common property of linear molecules bound by highly-directional, covalent > chemical bonds. This property can be observed in the hydrocarbon molecules > produced by the industrial Fischer-Tropsch synthesis. The origin of this > phenomenon is simply a consequence of geometry of linear molecules combined > with the constraints of statistical mechanics, and was recognized as such > more than a half century ago. > Scientifically illiterate British and American geo-phrenologists > continue to make silly noises about "the odd-even asymmetry," hoping no > one knows better. Understand better that many men do know better. > > Since the notion of a biological-origin-of-petroleum [BOOP] stands > glaringly in contradiction to fundamental physical law, there cannot ever > be any "evidence" that might support such nonsense, - and, indeed, every > so-called evidence claimed to support a biological connection of petroleum > has been thoroughly discredited. A review of this fact is written up > also in the European journal Energia, published in 2001: J. F. Kenney, Y. > F. Shnyukov, V. A. Krayushkin, I. K. Karpov, V. G. Kutcherov and I. N. > Plotnikova, "Dismissal of the claims of a biological connection for > natural petroleum," Energia, 2001, 22, 26-34. > > You would do well to bear in mind, henceforth, the words of the famous > British scientist (not geologist[sic]), Fred Hoyle, almost twenty years > ago: > > > âThe suggestion that petroleum might have arisen from some transformation > of squashed fish or biological detritus is surely the silliest notion to > have been entertained by substantial numbers of persons over an extended > period of time.â - Fred Hoyle, (1982). > > Sincerely yours, > Dr. J. F. 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