semoga saja benar info tsb, bahwa voting hanyalah karena rasa penasaran si moderator. mong-ngomong, memangnya siapa sih yg jadi moderator, pak? kalo voting tsb jadi mom (minutes of meeting) si moderator, alias dianggap tidak hanya bercanda dan memenuhi rasa penasaran saja, tentunya aapg berkewajiban utk 'menegur' gaya moderator tsb. tapi kalo sampai keterlampauan bahwa aapg justru kasih stempel utk soal voting ini, saya dukung pak awang utk tidak melakukan pembiaran saja.
memang akan berbeda halnya kalo 45 orang bikin makalah, yg 3 menyimpulkan gempa sbg biang-keladi, sedangkan yg 42 lebih melihat kelakuan pemboran sbg penanggungjawabnya. salam dari tebet/jakarta, syaiful On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 6:22 PM, Awang Satyana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Kang, > > Setahu saya inilah voting pertama di dunia diadakan untuk keberpihakan kepada > opini ilmiah... Saya tak menganggapnya serius, hanya kepenasaran moderator > saja untuk mengetahui respon penonton. Tetapi bila nanti hasil voting ini > akan menjadi laporan resmi AAPG, saya akan menulis surat keberatan kepada > AAPG, apapun hasil voting. Sungguh tak etis mengadakan voting dalam dunia > ilmiah, apalagi dilakukan oleh lembaga seterhormat AAPG. > > salam, > awang > > --- On Wed, 10/29/08, km852001 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > From: km852001 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [Geo_unpad] Re: Fw: RE: [iagi-net-l] Fwd: [Oil&Gas] STOP PRESS!! > Hasil Seminar AAPG di Cape Town -- was 100 pakar diskusikan lumpur lapindo di > London > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Wednesday, October 29, 2008, 5:36 PM > > > > > > > Wah... ngomong ngomong ide voting darimana sih, jangan jangan dari > orang kita kebiasaan kayak di DPR.... kreatif juga rupanya. > Seminar keilmuan kok di voting ?, nanti gimana kalau Big Bang atau > Black Hole juga divoting ke absahan teorinya.. > Ga ngerti saya, Pa Awang, apakah ada rekam jejak tentang voting di > bidang geologi ini, mungkin saya naive ?. > > Salam > heri 75 > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com, Awang Satyana <awangsatyana@ ...> > wrote: >> >> >> >> --- On Wed, 10/29/08, Awang Satyana <awangsatyana@ ...> wrote: >> >> From: Awang Satyana <awangsatyana@ ...> >> Subject: RE: [iagi-net-l] Fwd: [Oil&Gas] STOP PRESS!! Hasil Seminar > AAPG di Cape Town -- was 100 pakar diskusikan lumpur lapindo di London >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Date: Wednesday, October 29, 2008, 1:14 PM >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Voting tidak mewakili kebenaran, itu hanya kesan penonton. Tak > mungkin kebenaran diputuskan dalam waktu 2 jam, mewakili analisis dan > perdebatan panjang setelah 2 1/2 tahun. Mayoritas penonton adalah > orang-orang asing yang baru pertama kalinya melihat pemaran LUSI. > Bagaimana mereka bisa melihat persoalannya dengan jernih,detail, dan > benar, lalu diminta memutuskan ? >> >> Voting tak selayaknya dilakukan. Banyak perubahan skenario > dilakukan dalam perdebatan ini, membuat satu pihak merasa > terperangkap. Minggu lalu, di London, di acara perdebatan yang > sama, moderator bertanya ke penonton, "apakah kalian yakin bahwa LUSI > akibat pemboran ?" Tak ada yang mengacungkan tangan. >> >> Voting tak mewakili kebenaran. The debate continues. Saya sedang > menyusun laporan detail jalannya perdebatan ini. Nanti akan saya > ceritakan. >> >> salam, >> awang - Capetown >> >> 10/29/08, Tonny P. Sastramihardja <[EMAIL PROTECTED] .> wrote: >> >> From: Tonny P. Sastramihardja <[EMAIL PROTECTED] .> >> Subject: RE: [iagi-net-l] Fwd: [Oil&Gas] STOP PRESS!! Hasil Seminar > AAPG di Cape Town -- was 100 pakar diskusikan lumpur lapindo di London >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Date: Wednesday, October 29, 2008, 9:48 AM >> >> Hii hii Kang Ipul bisa aza, >> Beda tipis??= Ilmunya vs Ahli di bidang keilmuan tsb! >> Anggota AAPG, masih bayar iuran tahunan?.... Rupiah lg anjlok > lho...jd >> akan terasa mahaal.. >> >> Salam >> Abah ANOM >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mohammad syaiful [mailto:mohammadsya [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 9:28 AM >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Subject: Re: [iagi-net-l] Fwd: [Oil&Gas] STOP PRESS!! Hasil Seminar > AAPG >> di Cape Town -- was 100 pakar diskusikan lumpur lapindo di London >> >> sekedar meluruskan kepanjangan AAPG, yg benar adalah 'American >> Association of Petroleum Geologists'. beti sih, beda tipis, tetapi >> jelas tidak sama. >> >> salam, >> syaiful >> * anggota AAPG >> >> 2008/10/29 Nataniel Mangiwa <nataniel.mangiwa@ ...>: >> > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> > From: Harry Eddyarso <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > Date: 2008/10/29 >> > Subject: [Oil&Gas] STOP PRESS!! Hasil Seminar AAPG di Cape Town -- > was >> 100 >> > pakar diskusikan lumpur lapindo di London >> > To: Migas_Indonesia@ yahoogroups. com >> > Cc: Sugeng Hartono <sugeng.hartono@ ...> >> > >> > >> > Dear rekan2 milis, >> > >> > As I promised, saya akan share point2 penting sebagai hasil > seminar >> para >> > pakar internasional dalam event AAPG (American Association of >> Petroleum >> > Geology) yang diadakan tanggal 28 October 2008 kemarin di Cape > Town, >> South >> > Africa. Dalam event itu, Indonesian DEC (Drilling Engineering > Club) >> diwakili >> > oleh Dr. Rudi Rubiandini dan Ir. Susila L. Pesan singkat via sms > yang >> > disampaikan oleh Dr. Rudi Rubiandini tadi malam adalah sbb: >> > - Yang setuju LUSI akibat bencana alam (mud volcano) --> 3 orang. >> > - Yang setuju LUSI akibat kesalahan pemboran --> 42 orang. >> > - Yang campuran antara 2 opini di atas --> 13 orang. >> > - Yang masih merasa belum tuntas diskusinya --> 16 orang. >> > >> >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > ---- >> -------- >> serah-terima pp-iagi: senin sore, 13 oktober 2008 >> ketua umum: LAMBOK HUTASOIT >> sekjen: MOHAMMAD SYAIFUL >> pasukan sedang disusun, hanya satu IAGI... >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > ---- >> -------- >> ayo, segera pula siapkan utk PIT IAGI ke-38 >> dg tuan-rumah adalah PENGDA JATENG >> * mungkin di semarang >> * mungkin pula di solo >> * mungkin juga join dg HAGI dll. >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > ---- >> ----- >> To unsubscribe, send email to: iagi-net-unsubscrib e[at]iagi. or.id >> To subscribe, send email to: iagi-net-subscribe[ at]iagi.or. id >> Visit IAGI Website: http://iagi. or.id >> Pembayaran iuran anggota ditujukan ke: >> Bank Mandiri Cab. 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