D'accordo con quanto detto sopra e d'accordo anche con Maor.
A meno che non ci siano pareri contrari, assicuriamoci ci vada qualcuno che
esprima il dissenso evidente della comunità Iberocoop (molti affiliati del
gruppo hanno sottoscritto la lettera COLOR
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_open_letter_on_renaming>) verso
il rebranding in queste condizioni.

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Il giorno mar 22 dic 2020 alle ore 11:21 Francesc Fort <
[email protected]> ha scritto:

> Opino como Luis (y como el resto, vaya).
>
> A favor de enviar a alguien. ¿Qué plazo hay y qué voluntarios tenemos?
>
> Missatge de Maor Malul <[email protected]> del dia ds., 19 de des.
> 2020 a les 18:52:
>
>> Bueno, creo que todos acá tenemos la misma opinión al respecto, ¿no? Si
>> es así, asegurarnos de que vaya alguien que represente y defienda nuestra
>> opinión y no se deje atropellar por los que están a favor del re-branding.
>>
>>
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>>
>> On Sun, Dec 13, 2020 at 6:37 PM Jaluj Wikipedista <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Totalmente de acuerdo.
>>> ¿Qué hacemos? ¿Decimos algo?
>>>
>>> Lic. Andrea Patricia Kleiman
>>> Board Member WMA <http://www.wikimedia.org.ar/equipo/>
>>> Co Founder of Muj(lh)eres latinoamericanas en Wikimedia
>>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Muj(lh)eres_latinoamericanas_en_Wikimedia>
>>> Co Founder Wikiproyecto Mujeres
>>> <https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikiproyecto:Mujeres>
>>> Co Founder Wikitherapy <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikitherapy>
>>> Co Founder Inter WikiWomen Collaboration
>>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Inter_WikiWomen_Collaboration>
>>> Wikimedia: User:Jaluj <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Jaluj>
>>> Wikipedia: Jalu <https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usuaria:Jaluj>
>>> WMES - WMU .- Wikimujeres
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> El dom, 13 dic 2020 a las 5:56, Maor Malul (<[email protected]>)
>>> escribió:
>>>
>>>> Totalmente de acuerdo, es ganas de gastar plata del movimiento para
>>>> decir que se está haciendo algo.
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, 13 Dec 2020, 10:53 AM Luis Ulzurrun <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> a.- Rebranding is not a need. What ain't broken needs no fixing.
>>>>> b.- Depending on how and by whom the counting is made, some 75% or
>>>>> more of the people who have participated in the rebranding process are
>>>>> against it. So it's not a question of advising on it. The point is killing
>>>>> it off.
>>>>> c.- I've been reading the link and it seems that opinions are those
>>>>> and that it is not a question of my being in the Land of Valencia, it 
>>>>> seems
>>>>> that in most (all?) other places the feeling is the same: just not 
>>>>> rebrand.
>>>>> d.- It looks that WMF is going to keep on with their intention to
>>>>> rebrand (forever?). ¡Pero niños, qué pesaos sois!
>>>>> e.- No, I'm not interested into advising or making part of a
>>>>> committee. (Just in case anybody was to ask).
>>>>> f.- Wikipedia is Wikipedia. Wikimedia is Wikimedia. Wikidata is
>>>>> Wikidata. I do know that a lot of people "outside" Wikiworld are mixing
>>>>> concepts. Yeah, true. But it's also the case that millions of people mix
>>>>> the Netherlands with Holland, the United Kingdom with England, and the USA
>>>>> with America. But I haven't heard of any rebranding efforts by those three
>>>>> places. What leads me back to (a.-): no rebranding is needed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Creo que sí, que estaría bien que alguien fuera al comité. Ya tiene mi
>>>>> opinión arriba explicada en la lengua de los comités, más que nada para 
>>>>> que
>>>>> se entienda [cuando más del 75% de la peña está en contra y siguen 
>>>>> pensando
>>>>> que es un tema que goza de apoyo, realmente parece que hay un problema
>>>>> cognitivo]. Calculo que incluso si van siete y los siete están en contra
>>>>> del rebranding, volverán a presentarlo otra vez y otra y otra hasta acabar
>>>>> con nosotros por aburrimiento [hoy mi planificación no incluía escribir
>>>>> este tocho, iba sobre muixerangas y edificios de Agres].
>>>>>
>>>>> Y paro aquí. Gracias por la paciencia.
>>>>>
>>>>> L U
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> El sáb, 12 dic 2020 a las 1:26, Jaluj Wikipedista (<
>>>>> [email protected]>) escribió:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Community_open_letter_on_renaming#Looking_for_community_advisors_to_Board_committee_on_Brand
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ¿Tenemos algún voluntario? Sería bueno que se presentara alguien de
>>>>>> Iberocoop.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lic. Andrea Patricia Kleiman
>>>>>> Board Member WMA <http://www.wikimedia.org.ar/equipo/>
>>>>>> Co Founder of Muj(lh)eres latinoamericanas en Wikimedia
>>>>>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Muj(lh)eres_latinoamericanas_en_Wikimedia>
>>>>>> Co Founder Wikiproyecto Mujeres
>>>>>> <https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikiproyecto:Mujeres>
>>>>>> Co Founder Wikitherapy <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikitherapy>
>>>>>> Co Founder Inter WikiWomen Collaboration
>>>>>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Inter_WikiWomen_Collaboration>
>>>>>> Wikimedia: User:Jaluj <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Jaluj>
>>>>>> Wikipedia: Jalu <https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usuaria:Jaluj>
>>>>>> WMES - WMU .- Wikimujeres
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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