I did this on Vanguard's RACF products. (That is if I remember correctly). It actually worked quite well. It's not a real big product, so I don't think I overwhelmed the I/O, at least not for very long.
What product did you get this demo on? It must not have been Vanguard, because their help desk people are very knowledgable. Eric Bielefeld P&H Mining Equipment On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:56:10 -0700, Duffy, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED] USA.COM> wrote: >Hi, all, > >Something came up yesterday that I thought was worth sharing, as I'm >concerned about it. This looks like a wave of the future and it makes >change control on mainframes a potential nightmare if other vendors do >this. > >I just had a meeting yesterday with a vendor who was touting their >software installation GUI for the mainframe. > >It uses FTP under the covers to install a listener/service >program/whatever to interface with their database nucleus to web enable >all sorts of nifty processes. > >In the vaporware version in the demo they showed how simple it was to >install and begin joining data elements together in a GUI and allow ad >hoc inquiries in a "point and click and report" kind of way. > >So a DBA or a developer could get a CD in the mail for a trial, load it >on their PC, install this puppy in an hour (vendor estimate) and, at >this site, they could join all vehicle records to all service records >for three years in a matter of seconds in the GUI and download gigs of >data to their PC until it gakked on the data volume. > >Meanwhile sysprogs would be fire fighting spikes on I/O and CPU for the >nucleus. Customers would be complaining about response time. >Management would be asking "what changed?" and all would be going on >outside of standard SMP/E software installs. > >If you are a DBA with rights to FTP and rights to update loadlibs you >would be authorized to install this. > >If you were trusted with data access you could run this sort of ad hoc >query. > >When I asked about if there was an SMP/E install procedure, they looked >at me with a quizzical look and said, "sure we cut SMF records." When I >tried to explain the differences between SMP/E and SMF they were lost. > >Has anyone else seen this sort of product installation method? > >Peter Duffy >Consultant, Operations Support - Mainframe/Distributed/Network >__________________________________________NISSAN NORTH AMERICA >Information Systems Department >Gardena, CA, USA >310-771-6472 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html