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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
> Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2005 5:50 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Keeping my started task's WTO output off the console?
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> In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 07/16/2005
>    at 08:46 PM, Todd Burch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
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> >I work for Allen System Group, in the mainframe group that used to be
> >Landmark.  Several of the products we produce use WTOs for trace
> >messages. In a development environment, with multiple products
> >running in diagnostic mode all the time, all producing reams of
> >diagnostic messages via WTO, simply pressing enter in SDSF while
> >browsing syslog can cause you to have to scroll down several hundred
> >lines.   It makes finding things of interest (system events not
> >directly related to a product's job log) more difficult.
> 
> Have you considered using CT, GTF or your own trace data set?
>  
> -- 
>      Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT

Not to rag on ASG, but that is likely considered "too much bother". Or,
being kind, perhaps the customers consider CT, GTF, or a trace dataset
to be too much bother to try to find. I know that I am "appalled" at how
difficult it is to do an IP packet trace on z/OS compared to running a
simple "tcpdump" on Linux.

In a similar vein, I still have products, __new products__, which hang a
WTOR for operator communications because "it's so easy". Like setting up
to do allow a MODIFY is "rocket science"? No way! I first wrote a
routine to communicate via a MODIFY in 1977 on OS/VS1, when I was just
out of college. It is not difficult.


--
John McKown
Senior Systems Programmer
UICI Insurance Center
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