My point is having done this (SETPROG LNKLST,UPDATE,JOB=* known to have measurable risk but still widely practiced) still won't free up the volume.
The "IPL" link list is special. LLA is not link list. Stopping LLA does not stop or free link list. Link List is older and deeper magic than LLA especially the "IPL" link list which you cannot get rid of even with industrial strength scrubbing. The allocations in XCFAS were a valiant attempt by IBM to keep people from doing dangerous things later enhancements allows those of us who sometimes need to drive on the shoulder to manipulate those allocations. You need to remember that they are still just safety devices removing them does not remove the risk if the data sets are still in use by a real (live) link list. If I understand correctly the "early" form of open is used to open data sets in the IPL link list ("IPL" link list set). There is no early close so volumes that had a link list library on them at IPL are going to have a bit set in the UCB that will prevent them from being varied offline. In ALLOCAS they will be marked as allocated to system. TMONMVS reflects this as 0000 *SYSTEM in the VOLUME USE UTILITY which plumbs the depths of ALLOCAS. The display unit command shows this as uuuu *MASTER*. I don't know of a way to get these off-line without zapping the UCB. If you don't mind the risk you should be able to use SETPROG LNKLST,UPDATE,JOB=* and a little bit of storage zapping to get sticky volumes off-line. Again you have to ask what is the cost to the business if you wait for the next IPL that can be scheduled compared to working in an entirely unsupported space. Best Regards, Sam Knutson, GEICO Performance and Availability Management mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (office) 301.986.3574 SHADOW (to probie) ...So stop me if I get this wrong... The fire's almost out... You're upstairs on the unburned floor checking for heat. You've been told by your Battalion Chief, your Captain, by me, not to do anything up there until ordered. But now the itch starts, and all of a sudden comes the Glory Boy Flash: Hey, I'm a hero. Heroes don't just stand around. So on your own you decided to punch out a window for ventilation. Was that before or after you noticed you were standing in a lake of gasoline? -----Original Message----- SETPROG LNKLST,UPDATE,JOB=* Did you notice that the manual said to only do this if you are trying to avoid an IPL because its use could cause an S106 type abend? If you did not do the UPDATE, then all the address spaces which were active before the SETPROG was issued are still using the IPL (or previous SETPROG) LNKLST and could possibly be trying to fetch modules from the "clean" disk. How did you delete everything? Right now, if this were my shop, I'd be in a mild panic about the possibility of an unplanned outage. -- John McKown <> ==================== This email/fax message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution of this email/fax is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please destroy all paper and electronic copies of the original message. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html