Comments interspersed: -- Frank Swarbrick Applications Architect - Mainframe Applications Development FirstBank Data Corporation - Lakewood, CO USA P: 303-235-1403
On 10/2/2009 at 4:48 PM, in message <000d01ca43b2$7ddc9c10$7995d4...@net>, Ulrich Krueger <[email protected]> wrote: > Frank, > I have worked for a number of different companies since I entered the > mainframe arena in the late 70's. And all of these shops worked along the > same lines: > - TSO - submitted jobs are named "userid + 1 or more characters". I don't see any good reason for this, other than inertia. > - Output from these jobs goes to the Hold Queue. This is OK as long as it can be overriden when desired. > - Default setup in SDSF "H" shows you your jobs, by jobname prefix and > owner. I don't use SDSF "H" generally because of it defaulting to your userID as prefix (must use "H ALL" to override). I almost always use SDSF "ST" to look at my output > - You are allowed to submit jobs using other jobnames (e.g., program > compiles: jobname = pgmname) at your discretion, but ... Generous! :-) > - You are NOT allowed to submit production jobs / reruns from your TSO (must > go through the job scheduler) Absolutely agree. > - You are NOT allowed to submit test jobs using a production jobname. > Period. No discussion. Not even on a separate system. Bizarre. Why not? > The tradition of using your TSO userid for batch job names dates back to the > invention of TSO and has been a default (or should I say, de-facto standard) > ever since then. Some shops enforce this rule more strictly than others, but > I found that I could live with these rules, without any trouble whatsoever. Obviously I have not found I can live with it, at least not without being grumpy. And since I have some pull with how our z/OS systems are being set up I will push for what I like. Won't win all the time, of course, but I see no reason not to try. I've been here 18 years (13 in IT, on VSE) and have no plans to go elsewhere, so... Thanks for your comments! Frank >>> The information contained in this electronic communication and any document attached hereto or transmitted herewith is confidential and intended for the exclusive use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or the employee or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any examination, use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication or any part thereof is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify the sender by reply e-mail and destroy this communication. Thank you. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html

