On 26 Nov 2009 10:49:40 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:

>I've seen plenty of awful Java.  But by far, VB.NET takes the cake due to
>India's 3-week course .NET factories.  I've found several *major* exploits
>in some core business software and the dynamics of it all... leaves an
>imprint of my palm in my forehead.

Garbage code complete with holes and security exposures can be written
in any language.  On IBM mainframes code meeting that description
normally is in COBOL with some Assembler and PL/1.
>
>Scott
>
>On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 7:01 AM, Kirk Wolf <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 7:21 AM, Shane <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hmmm - my opinions of "write once, run nowhere" java is probably well
>> > known.
>> > Despite Kirks protestations, most of the java I see seems to have been
>> > written by people who have their programming grounding (for want of a
>> > better term) in basic.
>> > Maybe I'm just unlucky.
>> >
>> > Shane ...
>> >
>> Protestations?  I think that I was agreeing with you.   I have seen
>> lots of great Java code, but the majority is pretty lousy.
>>
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