Bob,

I am reliably informed that this does not applied anymore. It did at one time 
though, so thanks for playing! 

"Johnny, tell him what his parting gifts are!" <grin>

Seriously, thank you.

Bob


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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of 
Shade, Robert A
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 11:15 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: HATS client timeout/performance issue

I'm not sure if this applies to your situation, or not. I saw a similar timeout 
problem with HATS applications at my previous (now-defunct) shop. The problem 
was due to the fact that HATS did many, many resolve requests to the 
nameservers, which were located on Unix platforms. We had to run a cacheing 
nameservice on the mainframe (on the same LPAR) to resolve this.

-Bob Shade
253-657-8622
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of 
Chris Mason
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 8:09 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: HATS client timeout/performance issue

Bob

> ... (... and TCPIP)

That's actually IBMTCP-L where matters concerning the IP component of z/OS
Communications Server - and sometimes TCP/IP for VM - tend to attract the
widest knowledgeable audience. Because of the importance of Enterprise
Extender for SNA support, the SNA component often attracts suitable
cognoscenti there also.

I think the nearest I ever got to HATS (= Host Access Transformation Server)
was "Host Publisher" back in 1999. I see there is a handy "red paper", "Host
Access Transformation Server Concepts and Architecture", at which I am
going to take a look.

Meantime I'm switching to IBMTCP-L and covering NODELAYACKS - which,
IMNSHO, is blameless!

Chris Mason

On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 07:53:39 -0400, Richards, Robert B.
<robert.richa...@opm.gov> wrote:

>Cross post (IBM-Main and TCPIP)
>
>We are experiencing an unusual situation and I am wondering if anyone else
has seen this at their shop. As phrased by my boss:
>
>"We are currently experience a client timeout with HATS applications.  I'm
calling it a client timeout because the CICS session associated with the user is
active but the user received a timeout message. This issue is only with HATS
applications and cross over business application lines."
>
>My TCP/IP guy wants to implement NODELAYACKS for specific ports for
problem resolution per the following IBM recommendation for TCP/IP WAS
performance tuning:
>
>- Consider specifying NODELAYACKS for ports. This may improve throughput
for more trivial transactions, but it does add more overhead for more complex
transactions. Using this option will cause the acknowledgments (ACKs) to be
sent back immediately to the client, rather than waiting for more data to
accumulate.
>
>Because CICS still has the session as active, it holds on to the client's too
long and, as you might expect, that has a bad ripple effect until CICS
terminates the task at its timeout.
>
>Any takers? :)
>
>Bob

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