OK, this is topic drift, but: are you saying that having stringent password
requirements is a failure? Because I sure think it is -- it just encourages
folks to use patterns or otherwise weak passwords and/or to write them down
anyway.

I use a site that requires 8-byte passwords, changed every n days, with no
more than 3 characters from the previous password in a row and at least one
digit,, which can't be leading or trailing". Surprise, we use ABCnnDEF,
where the nn is what changes. Fortunately this isn't an important site, so
I'm not worried about someone getting at it, but it's an example where the
stupid restrictions fail.

On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 1:20 PM, Howard Brazee <howard.bra...@cusys.edu>wrote:

> On 13 Jul 2010 08:11:48 -0700, ken.porow...@cit.com (Ken Porowski)
> wrote:
>
> >Now, I'll sit back and enjoy the debate on the question if an 'operator
> error' counts as a 'glitch'.
> >
> >For the opening shot in this, I'd argue: yes. While no system can ever be
> totally idiot proof, human intervention can be counted on as a failure mode.
>  Besides, it should have taken more than one idiot to do the job. :-)
>
> Humans are an important part of any system.   The more critical the
> system, the more important it is to include accounting for human
> frailties as part of the design.
>
> One example of such failure is "fixing" the password problem by
> requiring that users have unique, hard to memorize passwords - in a
> world where it's not uncommon to have hundreds of passwords.   Then
> require that they change the passwords frequently and never write them
> down.
>
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