John Gilmore wrote "I remember going astray, ætat 4 or 5" in a later post on 
this now seriously OT thread.

You're right about the OP's questions being "radically naïf."  I suffered a 
multi-bit memory check.

My email editor inserts diaereses often without my knowing it, which is not 
always to my liking.

The two-edged vorpal blade of pedantry has once again snacked me after 
snickering towards its intended target.

BTW, I finally found an online definition of Rob Scott's words "cromulent" and 
"embiggins".

Bill Fairchild
Rocket Software

-----Original Message-----
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Steve Comstock
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 5:56 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: ATTACH

On 11/1/2010 2:35 PM, Bill Fairchild wrote:
> Many repliers have emphasized clarity and precision.
> Although Mr. Gilmore's word choice is sometimes arcane
> and obscure, nevertheless his words under attack were
> not "big" or "complex" words; e.g., "ætat", having only
> five letters, cannot possibly be characterized as "big",
> and its meaning is instantly obvious given a knowledge
> of Latin roots, as was "lacunae", also not a "big" word.

John's post did not include ætat, that I can see.


> Nor did he describe the OP as "naïve."  He said that the OP was
> "a naïf."

No. He said: "They are radically naif.", speaking of the OP's
questions.

 > These two words are not synonymous.  Naïve is an adjective
 > and naïf is a noun, as he used it.

No. He used "naif" as an adjective, and did not include the
diaeresis. The Merriam-Webster online dictionary says:

Definition of NAÏF: naive

Variants of NAÏF
  na·ïf
  na·if



> If you take Mr. Gilmoreto task for lack of clarity and
> precision, then please be sure that your post is just as
> clear and precise as you wish his had been.

A two-edged sword, indeed.


> Were it not for Mr. Gilmore's predilection for precise meanings,
> I would still be ignorant of the words "antipode" and "boustrophedon"
> (the latter of which is big, complex, and arcane, but amazingly precise).
> As I also do not have an OED on my shelf, he often drives me happily
> to an online English dictionary, into a word's etymology, and from thence
> to further French, Greek, Italian, or even Icelandic dabbling.

I agree with you there. But for people looking for some
technical information, or even a pointer to a document or
other source, the digression is not necessarily the path
they want to follow.


>
> Bill Fairchild
> Rocket Software
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
> Of Ted MacNEIL
> Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 2:32 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: ATTACH
>
>> There's a lot to be said for vocabulary enhancement.
>
> Yes, but there is a lot to be said for communicating.
>
>> I'm tired of hearing that everything must be written for a 5th grade level
>> audience.
>
> There's a reason for that. Most people are lucky if they can read at that high
> of a level.
>
>> What ever happened to 'look it up'?
>
> That's fine in the classroom;difficult in real life.
>
> The whole purpose of communicating is to communicate!
> If your reader doesn't understand you, through the uses/abuse of large/obscure
> words or complex phraseology, it is not the reader's fault.
> It is the fault of the writer.
>
> And, using those big words to answer the OP, did not solve the problem.
> The calling of him naive was also insulting.
> Just because somebody is a novice, is no reason to talk down to him.
> If I had answers, I would have responded.


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