--- On Thu, 12/9/10, Rick Fochtman <rfocht...@ync.net> wrote:
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This last comment is correct, but I have a serious problem with applications 
that issue system-type abend codes.

Rick

Rick,
I agree completely. When we were converting from MVT to MVS we had a user come 
down with a similar problem. He said "It says its a system abend" fix it 
because its not mine. It took me all of 30 second to figure it out from the 
dump and told the guy it was his problem and here is why... I explained the 
issue as simply as I could. The guy thought I was giving him a snow job and he 
went to his bosses boss and told him we (the system group) couldn't fix a 
system problem. All of a sudden we were told we had to go to a meeting and were 
hustled up to a huge conference room and was told to stand around in the 
corner. As it unfolded the meeting was a status meeting and every body was 
giving the status of his/her project. Then about 2/3rd's the way through one of 
the project managers got up and talked about all his project and then he says 
something to the effect that MVS was broken and the systems people had to fix 
it or this project xxx was going to fail. We
 all looked at each other and I was not sure what he was talking about so I 
asked him what MVS system problem was he refering to as far as I know no MVS 
issues (user) were outstanding. The project manager said the program was 
getting an S001 and an "S" meant it was a system problem. It was then I 
realized what was going on (I had a desk full of S/A dumps just waiting for me 
to look at). I turned my head and looked at my boss and I said "now I 
understand" to him. I looked at him and gave me the OK to go. So I said I would 
like to explain something so we could all be on the same understanding. So I 
went to the white board and explained exactly what had happen. 
Back then most people were conversant  in assembler so I did not have to go 
into bits too much but I think I explained it well enough and I turned around 
and asked does this explain what the small problem is and the "Big" boss was a 
little red in the face. I steped back to the my group and the "Big" boss said 
OK everybody that is not part of the project could leave. We filed and closed 
the door behind us. Although we had rather thick doors on our conference rooms 
it wasn't thick enough to hear the boss screaming at the top of his lungs that 
in no uncertain terms he wanted that programmer gone TODAY.
Well I heard about a week later the idiot programmer went to work for an 
insurance company in Chicago for big $$. I loss track of the guy as I was just 
hoping never to run into him again. That is one of the many reasons not to code 
it that way.
Sorry to run on and a little bit late in replying.
Ed
 




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