Thanks all. Bruce's reply was especially helpful. I understand my various
imperfect options now.

With regard to R.S.'s observation: ain't it the truth! Does anyone have the
impression that making* a simple question like "how big is this file?" so
darned difficult somehow improves the value or the positive attributes (RAS,
etc.) of this platform?

*Yes, MAKING. Some of the problems are inevitable due to the age of the
platform and the philosophy of upward compatibility (small field sizes that
have now been outgrown in some kludgey way) but IBM's placing a prohibitive
price on fundamental (if PC-DOS can do it, it's fundamental) documentation
is totally incomprehensible.

Charles

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Bruce Black
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 2:01 PM
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Subject: Re: Determining size information for existing QSAM dataset


>
>
>Well shoot, it looks like DFSMS OPEN merges the SECONDARY space quantity
>into the JFCB but not the primary, perhaps because the secondary might be
>needed for space extension, but there's really no use for the primary
>quantity after initial allocation? Seems odd to me.
>
The primary quantity is not saved anywhere after allocation (except for 
VSAM) so it won't appear in the merged JFCB when opening an existing 

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