ps2...@yahoo.com (Ed Gould) writes:
> Thanks...
>
> My memory seemed too jump when I saw QBE... I think that was it.
> THE BIG block letters on the screen were QBE.
>
> I do not know How I ever forgot those initials but I did.
> Now onto QBE. Was it iBM code or an IUP or ... ????. A quick google says it 
> was 
> written by IBM.
>
> Ed

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#52 Maybe off topic
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#54 Maybe off topic
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#55 Maybe off topic

"Shoot-out at the OK Corral" ... (between QBE & SQL):
http://www.mcjones.org/System_R/SQL_Reunion_95/sqlr95-Shoot-ou.html

from above (QBE being in the field as an IUP)

And there were people in the field, and they loved it. They had stories
of tape librarians who'd automated their tape library with it, and Gene
Trivett was going around and fixing some of the performance problems,
and it was popping up all over the planet. So it had a very loyal
following. It was obvious to everybody that this did something
wonderful. That this was an end-user program. So then the question
became, "So why don't we cancel System R?" or "Why don't we grow this
thing?"

... snip ...


a little later on in above:

I don't have the exact date, but around 1978, right? When did the actual
shoot-out occur? 1978? Gomory asked Dick Case to do a review of the
work. Dick Case included Ashok Chandra, who currently runs the Computer
Science Department - he's the latest version of Frank King - and one
other person, who were all disinterested people, but were technically
capable. They went to Yorktown and learned all about QBE, and then they
came to San Jose to learn all about System R, and I gave them my long
lecture about how the lock manager works and how Compare-and-Swap could
do locking, and we did it all right, and we knew how to do
Compare-and-Swap-Double. Dick Case was really impressed, because he's
probably the architect of Compare-and-Swap.

... snip ...

as I've posted before, compare&swap was invented by charlie at the
cambridge science center working on fine-grain multiprocessor locking
for cp67 (compare-and-swap was chosen because "CAS" are charlie's
initials). we tried to get "CAS" into 370, but were rebuffed because the
POK favorite son operating system people claimed that test&set was more
than adequate. The challenge given us by the owners of 370 architecture
was to come up with uses other than kernel multiprocessing.  Thus was
born were the uses for application multithreaded operation, examples
that still appear in principle of operations. misc. past posts
mentioning multiprocessor support &/or compare&swap
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#smp

some more QBE in discussion about VS/QUERY (QMF):
http://www.mcjones.org/System_R/SQL_Reunion_95/sqlr95-VS_QUERY.html

for other topic drift:
http://www.mcjones.org/System_R/SQL_Reunion_95/sqlr95-Prehisto.html

above mentions a project at cambridge science center. one of the people
working on the project was the "L" ... in "GML" which was invented at CSC
in 1969. In the late '70s, "GML" morphs into ISO standard as "SGML"
... and then in the late '80s, "SGML" morphs into "HTML". misc. past
posts mentioning gml, sgml, html, etc
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#sgml

"L" transfers from CSC to SJR ... shortly after I did. misc. past posts
mentioning cambridge science center, 4th flr, 545 tech sq
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech

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