I am 033x tomorrow! > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Scott Ford > Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 2:35 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] DATACLASS > > NowI get it, thanks my man...btw I was 60 last august > > Sco > Ron, > > NowI get it, thanks my man...btw I was 60 last august > > Scott J Ford > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Ron Hawkins <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Fri, April 1, 2011 5:25:30 PM > Subject: Re: DATACLASS > > Scott, > > I may be older then. > > The JCL is pretty much run of the mill placeholder allocation. It's a pretty > common practice to pre-allocate your space like this. Some shops add the DCB > info in the IEFBR14 and some shops add it on the step that opens the file. > It doesn't really matter 'cause it is just space. We used to fill our RVAs > and Icebergs with 100s of these. > > And it may not be obvious, but LRECL=0 is really saying LRECL is missing, > just like BLKSIZE=0 which is used all the time. The JCL and ISPF 3.2 don't > ask for these LRECL and BLKSIZE to be zero, it just they are displayed as > zero because nothing has actually been specified. > > Now this may be a wild arsed guess, but I think Jason is trying to create a > DATACLAS and associated rules that will provide a set of default > characteristics for a DSORG=PS file. The ACS routine he provided is not > working for the IEFBR14 because the DSORG is null. I'm still not certain > that ISPF is opening the file as described by Ted, but I do believe that > ISPF is adding DSORG=PS even though it is not requested - there's nowhere > for you to actually specify the DSORG in ISPF 3.2. > > This is the non-SMS allocation from the JCL from the OP. > > . Data Set Information > . > . Command ===> > . > . > . > . Data Set Name . . . . : HAWKINS.CEB.TEST > . > . > . > . General Data Current Allocation > . > . Management class . . : **None** Allocated tracks . : 1 > . > . Storage class . . . : **None** Allocated extents . : 1 > . > . Volume serial . . . : PE1USA > . > . Device type . . . . : 3390 > . > . Data class . . . . . : **None** > . > . Organization . . . : NONE Current Utilization > . > . Record format . . . : ? Used tracks . . . . : 0 > . > . Record length . . . : 0 Used extents . . . : 0 > . > . Block size . . . . : 0 > . > . 1st extent tracks . : 1 > . > . Secondary blocks . : 10 Dates > . > . Data set name type : Creation date . . . : 2011/04/01 > . > . Referenced date . . : ***None*** > . > . Expiration date . . : ***None*** > . > > Ron > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of > > Scott Ford > > Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 1:09 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] DATACLASS > > > > I went back and read the original post...Its not clean what > > Ron, > > > > I went back and read the original post...Its not clean what Jason is > doing, I > > see the IEFBR14 and it is wrong JCL wise...but what is this dataset's > > attributes > > or is it being modelled after another dataset.....Maybe I am getting old > > dude..I > > also saw his ISPF 3.2 ...never have I allocated a dataset as LRECL = 0 > > and BLKSIZE = 0 , and of > > > > course forget reading it ..what is he trying to do here..? > > > > Scott J Ford > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Ron Hawkins <[email protected]> > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Fri, April 1, 2011 2:48:55 PM > > Subject: Re: DATACLASS > > > > Scott, > > > > The IEFBR14 example from the original post is one example of a program > that > > would allocate such a dataset. > > > > Ron > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On > > Behalf Of > > > Scott Ford > > > Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 11:17 AM > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] DATACLASS > > > > > > A lrecl = and blksize = and recfm = , IMHO i wou > > > Guys: > > > > > > A lrecl = 0 and blksize = 0 and recfm = u , IMHO i would have thought > you > > need > > > a > > > lrecl or blksize, how many programs fo you know would allocate such a > > > dataset.. > > > I dont know of many... > > > > > > > > > Scott J Ford > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to [email protected] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO > > Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to [email protected] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO > > Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [email protected] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO > Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [email protected] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO > Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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