This is actually a crucial and timely topic. To paraphrase Bob Rogers, How 
do you do what you do when you're a sysprog? Back in the day when we had 
access to IBM source code, when there was not much of a Support Center in 
place, on-site dump shooting was a valuable skill. If sysprogs couldn't do 
it, they had to call in a PSR. Now we have no source, but we have a 
powerful support mechanism in place, and the situation has (at least 
somewhat) reversed. The skills now are in collecting appropriate doc, 
getting it to IBM quickly, and supplying other relevant information to 
Level 2 clearly and factually. Not just anyone can do that. 

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JO.Skip Robinson
SCE Infrastructure Technology Services
Electric Dragon Team Paddler 
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
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323-715-0595 Mobile
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From:   Jim Thomas <[email protected]>
To:     [email protected]
Date:   07/20/2011 03:14 PM
Subject:        Re: ONTOP?
Sent by:        IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]>



Sir,

True, but is not so much fun to call IBM and say ..
Heyy ...... here's your problem .. now fix it .. :-)


Kind Regards

Jim Thomas
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636-294-1014                (res)
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-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf
Of Chase, John
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 11:20 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: ONTOP?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jim Thomas
> 
> Sir,
> 
> Forgive me for asking, but is there a real reason that
> people want IBM to do their dump analysis for them ??.

Sure...  We pay IBM for software defect support, and IBM no longer
furnishes source code for their software, so "their bug, let them
analyze and fix it".

    -jc-


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