In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 12/12/2005
   at 12:12 AM, Chris Mason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

>If the "mainframe" is to be defined as an electronic computer doing
>commercial work - which, for example, I expect is a definition with
>which IBM would agree

I would expect scale to be part of the definition; heavy, bulky, high
power consumption. I would expect IBM to consider, e.g., the 701, 704,
709, 7090, to be mainframes, even though their workloads were
typically scientific and engineering rather than commercial. I'd
include one of a kind machines, e.g., EDSAC, ENIAC, Golem, ZUSE.

>then we in/from the UK like to propose the LEO as the pioneer.

Why exclude engineering applications? 

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