Mike

"Horses for Courses!"

> Seeing subarea 1 is a good reminder you've got rid of the subarea functions 
> from VTAM.

Seeing an identifying subarea number is a good reminder to which system the 
trace or dump belongs and VTAM maintenance folk will thank you for it!

> If you omit HOSTSA you'll get SACONNS=NO.

This point doesn't jump out at me from Table 70, "Node type functional summary" 
and yet I believe you must be right - and I'll have to revise my just created 
diagrams. In principle the default value for the SACONNS start option is YES - 
just take a look as the description! - but, in order to reproduce the rules as 
they applied before the SACONNS start option appeared, not specifying HOSTSA 
and specifying NODETYPE *must* eliminate external subarea, in other words, 
SACONNS=NO must be assumed. Time for yet another "reader's comment form"!

-----------------------------------------------
| SACONNS   | NODETYPE  | NODETYPE | NODETYPE |
| =         | not       |    =     |    =     |
| YES       | specified |    EN    |    NN    |
| (default) |           |          |          |
|-----------+-----------+----------+----------|
| HOSTSA    | pure      | pure     | pure     |
| not       | subarea   | APPN     | APPN     |
| specified | host      | host     | host     |
|           |           | End      | Network  |
|           |           | Node  EN | Node  NN |
|           |-----------+---------------------|
|           |subarea = 1|internal subarea = 1 |
|-----------+-----------+---------------------|
| HOSTSA    | pure      | Migration| Inter-   |
| specified | subarea   | Data     | change   |
|           | host      | Host     | Node     |
|           |           | MDH      | ICN      |
|           |---------------------------------|
|           |         subarea = HOSTSA        |
-----------------------------------------------

Chris Mason

On Fri, 7 Oct 2011 16:22:19 +0100, Mike Wawiorko <mike.wawio...@barclays.com> 
wrote:

>"For better manageability we recommend defining or keeping a unique subarea 
>number using HOSTSA"
>
>There's no benefit in unique APPN-only HOSTSAs that I know except this odd one.
>
>Some systems we've inherited have automation that examines the subarea number 
>to decide on actions to take. We've left HOSTSA and coded SACONNS=NO.
>
>If you look at a network management tool like NetView NLDM or run VTAM traces 
>of application FID4s you'll see subarea number 1 under the wraps. Seeing 
>subarea 1 is a good reminder you've got rid of the subarea functions from VTAM.
>
>"and running VTAM as a pure EN/NN by coding SACONNS=NO."
>
>Running as a straight APPN node NN or EN, rather than as an ICN or MDH, is the 
>way to go. If you've inherited VTAMs with subarea and the complex subarea PATH 
>statements, VRs, ERs and the like it is time to simplify to APPN only.
>If you omit HOSTSA you'll get SACONNS=NO.
>
>Regards,
>Mike Wawiorko
>-----Original Message-----
>From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of 
>Hansen, Dave L - Eagan, MN
>Sent: 07 October 2011 15:01
>To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
>Subject: Using unique HOSTSA (running VTAM as pure EN/NN) = 'Better 
>Manageability'?
>
>Group,
>
>   I have been reviewing the Enterprise Extender Implementation guide 
> (SG24-7359) in Chapter 3 it talks about HOSTSA and SACONNS.  It says "For 
> better manageability we recommend defining or keeping a unique subarea number 
> using HOSTSA, and running VTAM as a pure EN/NN by coding SACONNS=NO.".  The 
> default HOSTSA is 1 and I see it on a few End Nodes.  I did see under ENHADDR 
> is says "Even with VTAM running as a pure APPN node, internally all resources 
> are represented using a FID4 subarea address format.".  So internally it 
> looks like it references HOSTSA.  I have been trying to evaluate EE 
> performance and have been doing a lot of different displays.  I don't recall 
> seeing subarea 1 when doing these displays.
>
>Q).  What "better manageability" would the authors be talking about?
>
>
>   Thank you in Advance,  Dave
>
>
>Dave Hansen
>Eagan Software Systems Branch
>651-406-1208
>dave.l.han...@usps.gov 

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