On 12/8/2011 2:17 PM, Lindy Mayfield wrote:
Would you mind, please, Joel  (or anyone else), giving me an example of some 
sort of JCL substitute language you and Fred speak of?  In the real/wild world?

I personally do not see any benefit from a JCL-like language being in the 
"style" of another language.  But I think I got this wrong.

This is something I think - and I said I think - that I've learned a bit over 
the past few years.  That when you take a general purpose type of language and 
make it specific for one purpose only...  then just go from there.  All the 
stuff you need to know you need to know from the assembly language.  But in my 
case, and perhaps many others, I wrote and modified over 10's of thousands of 
Cobol and CSP (not to mention JCL, Rexx, SQL, etc) lines of code during my 
lifetime up to a certain point.  And I never, ever knew any MVS instructions at 
all, other than, by accident IEFBR14.  I always knew the BR14 was somehow 
special.  Took me forever to find out, but I did.

What I would say is this:   If you made JCL more C like when running C 
programs, could I use it for running other programs like Cobol or Rexx or 
IDCAMS?  Then why not make it more C-like or Rexx-like or macro-like?  It all 
boils down to the same thing, doesn't it?  And if I hate C as much as some hate 
JCL, then what?

Didn't we already learn this lesson from shell's and shell scripting languages?

Today, for 45 more minutes is Sibelius' birthday.  Happy  birthday.  This is a 
nice Finlandia, if I didn't mistakenly post it already.  I've been having fun 
on both IBM-MAIN and ASSEMBLER-LIST for the past few days, so I get mixed up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ci3RPAOFok4

Regards
Lindy

Well, that was bracing.

Now to the soundtrack from Departures, the Japanese movie
that got best foreign fill at the Academy Awards last
year: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiyFeT0Tpkk


And, oh yes, back to work.



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