In <5925490962292924.wa.paulgboulderaim....@bama.ua.edu>, on
12/15/2011
   at 07:16 PM, Paul Gilmartin <paulgboul...@aim.com> said:

>(   o but I haven't an ancient IEBGENER around to verify.
>    o and IIRC you dislike IEBGENER, so perhaps you won't count it.)

I've been known to hold my nose and use it.

>Or do utilities not count as applications?

I'd certainly count Script as an application.

>(But only as long as assemblers supported macros.)

Assemblers supported macros well before IBM formally defined a
character set with lower case.

>perhaps better than HLASM does.

What's the issue with HLA?
 
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