Brian,

I am used to that type of support structure. I have noticed a more of a 
reliance on the vendor for a lot more than the actual product the support. 

Regards,
Scott


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On Jan 3, 2012, at 1:11 AM, Brian Westerman <brian_wester...@syzygyinc.com> 
wrote:

> I agree,
> 
> We make sure that when we say we are staffed, that we mean on site at one of 
> our 3 branches, not by some company that just answers the phone.  The way we 
> handle it in times when no one is around is that the support line phone 
> system will automatically page someone after 5 minutes if no one physically 
> takes the call, and after 10 minutes two people are paged, and at 15 minutes 
> a third is added.  After 30 minutes, the upper management people get added, 
> so it's really rare to have more too much time go by.  Unfortunately, we 
> don't have the same feature on our web site. :(
> 
> Brian
> 
> On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 12:27:39 -0500, Scott Ford <scott_j_f...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
>> John,
>> Me either ,  I would have thought the vendor had the tools. Sounds like they 
>> want u to pay to have it done.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Scott ford
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> On Jan 1, 2012, at 9:01 PM, John McKown <joa...@swbell.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Sun, 2012-01-01 at 12:23 -0500, Scott Ford wrote:
>>>> Brian,
>>>> Yep the India support get back to you doesn't set well with me as a vendor.
>>>> We get back to our customers ASAP. Also want to add, don't expect the
>>>> Support to know anything. Been on the phone with a certain ISP and had
>>>> to tell them how to shoot the problem.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Scott
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Not just India, per se. It's the vendor, regardless of country.
>>> 
>>> We in z/OS support, for some reason, are tasked with a distributed
>>> application, which replaced a z/OS application. It runs on a Tomcat
>>> server on Linux, and a Windows server. It uses Oracle as some sort of
>>> "index" for data files kept on a NAS box. They also support the
>>> application using MS SQL. We want to convert from Tomcat/Linux with
>>> Oracle to Tomcat/Windows with MS SQL (I don't know why). The vendor DOES
>>> NOT KNOW HOW TO DO THIS! They are asking us for things like the Oracle
>>> schema ( or maybe its the data: 3 Terabytes). WHAT??? It's __their__
>>> schema. They don't know how to copy the data in the Oracle database into
>>> an MS SQL database. I'm not really in this discussion, so maybe I'm
>>> missing something. And don't intend to try getting into, because our
>>> DBAs are now outsourced. I really don't want to bother with that
>>> headache of talking to the US reps of a Dutch company to tell an
>>> outsourced DBA what needs to be done. Oh, my. I'm would be homicidal in
>>> about 5 minutes. I don't suffer fools gladly.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> John McKown
>>> Maranatha! <><
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