The status does not change until you run a CA-1 maintenance job. It is not 
"real time".

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
> [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Uriel Carrasquilla
> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 10:10 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> Subject: Re: catalogued datasets in tapes and expiration dates
> 
> Forgot to mention, yes, I am using CA-1.
> I ran a GENER to copy to output file on our VTL (UNIT=V3590) 
> with a LABEL=EXPDT=99000 with a DISP to CATLG if successful.
> It ran OK and put the dataset (no stacking) into VOL=SER=682436.
> Then, via ISPF TMS, I checked the volume and it shows the 
> expiration date with the CATALOG description.
> Then, I went to ISPF 3.2 and uncatalogued the dataset.
> TMS still has the same information with the expiration date 
> set to CATALOG.
> I was expecting to see "SCRATCH" instead.
> is this normal?
> ________________________________________
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] on 
> behalf of Jonathan Goossen [jonathan.goos...@assurant.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 10:23 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> Subject: Re: catalogued datasets in tapes and expiration dates
> 
> The answer likely varies by the TMS in use.
> 
> CA-1 will keep the tape until every dataset on it is expired. 
> This can be
> confusing as the volume record is also the first file on the 
> tape. CA-1
> will adjust its expiration to be equal the highest on the tape. If you
> manually expire the first file (volume record) then the 
> entire tape will
> scratch regardless of the expiration of the rest of the 
> files. That is one
> reason that I am very carful about changing the expiration of volume
> records.
> 
> In CA-1 there is an expiration called CATALOG. It will expire the file
> when it is no longer cataloged. If a cataloged tape file has a Julian
> expiration, then uncataloging the  file will not affect 
> expiration. But
> scratching the tape will uncatalog the file.
> 
> Thank you and have a Terrific day!
> 
> Jonathan Goossen, DTM
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> IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu> wrote on 
> 03/29/2012
> 08:51:19 AM:
> 
> > From: Uriel Carrasquilla <uriel.carrasqui...@mail.mcgill.ca>
> > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> > Date: 03/29/2012 08:52 AM
> > Subject: Re: catalogued datasets in tapes and expiration dates
> > Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu>
> >
> > Let's say I have a tape with multiple datasets inside.
> > Some datasets may be catalogued, some may not.
> > I can understand the once not catalogued when they expire they no
> > longer hold the tape from going to the scratch pool.
> > But what about those cases when the catalogued datasets hit their
> > expiration date? what happens?
> > am I also correct in assuming that the entire tape with all the
> > stacked datasets is being held until the last dataset in it expires?
> > Please share your thoughts.
> >
> > 
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